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hey y'all Ryan Sprague here as you all

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[Music]

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scathing indictment okay see what we

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really think of you yeah

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so for anyone listening I'm gonna push

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record it's not fair so I want to try to

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make this all professional but I can't

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because it's Shannon for anyone

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listening we've been speaking for about

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half an hour and that half an hour we'll

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probably never see the light of day but

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make it so more our patreon subscribers

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and the insiders we'll see what happens

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but for those who have been following my

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journey on the first what was it like 50

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episodes maybe of into the fray or

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you've been following her work since the

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beginning you know who this person is

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Shannon the grou host of into the fray

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radio and she has stepped further down

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the rabbit hole and into a new book

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project called beyond the fray which we

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will be discussing today among many

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other interesting topics so Shannon

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thank you so much for coming on

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somewhere in the skies again sir thank

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you so much I appreciate that very much

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thanks for inviting me on my pleasure

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I've got a nice little bourbon here to

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cheers to you on your first book thank

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you very much yeah I you know like I

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said before we hit the real record

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button here I always kind of almost

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practive a book out and here we are

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we've it seen the light of day know it

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so it's a wonderful feeling and I have a

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wonderful partner in the whole thing G

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Michael Hoff first name Jeff he's been

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wonderful through this whole thing and

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he is he's the one that you know he

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really initiated the contact between the

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two of us and and Lycoris lettuce so no

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thank you

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Thank You Ryan of course yeah that led

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you to be on the fray big foot which

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we're gonna get into in a little bit but

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um I want to talk first the last time we

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spoke was right before storm area 51

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that [\h__\h] came in your thoughts on how

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it went I know you live out in the

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Nevada area where there's all took place

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um so were you able to make it out there

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or have you heard any rumblings about

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how it all went down

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like what was what was going on out

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fact that George Knapp himself actually

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went out to the storm area 51 of course

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and he you know he was doing his

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reporting as well he should he's

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definitely on the pulse of all this

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and that's my only regret other than

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that you know it was quite the dud I

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mean what was the number but the initial

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number of people saying I'm go and I'm

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gonna store Mary 15 one number three

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million or so yeah it was like 80 kids

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in pretty much a DC outfits and likes

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like EDC is Electric Daisy Carnival

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which I will never be caught dead at one

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of those by the way god bless you all

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but no you know the tutus and the socks

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CrossFit but you're definitely not going

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to work out it's no but yeah so Mary 51

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thankfully no one even went up and

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touched the gate as far as I know which

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is you know with a federal offense or is

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that not what happened no you you are

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you're correct that one person was

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arrested it was a she and she was 87

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years old what she pissed on the game

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this is a rumor but I heard that an

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eighty like seven year old woman went up

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to the gate peed on it and they had they

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had to restrain her what's the logistics

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on that she did she climb on okay cuz

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pillar I did wonder yeah I'm just I'm a

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little kiss next person so I'm good she

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doesn't need a citation for that or to

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he pissed on the gate I mean she didn't

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fine right right I think she's the hero

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in all this not mad at Roberts come on

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that is wonderful

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how did I miss that story yeah I might

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have come across at a 3:00 a.m. after a

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couple maybe too many drinks but that

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on out there yeah I I know

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Jeremy Korbel had an event Maddy Roberts

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had his own event there

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another one going on in a town over so

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like even before this thing came to be

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like it was already broken to begin with

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so I don't know you know maybe it'll

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become a new thing every year if that's

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the case I know Mattie Roberts the guy

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who started the Facebook group he's now

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gonna make this an annual event it's

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gonna be like a big concert thing and

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money's gonna go to charities so you

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know what if that's what this turns out

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to be I'm all for it I said from the

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beginning like if we could focus our

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energy on good things instead of like

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you know making money off of people and

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selling $15 Bud Lights with an alien on

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the front like it yes get that money to

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go to something good so who knows who

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knows what's gonna happen next year but

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they they did have a stage because I saw

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it behind George did people like Paul

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think so I mean there was some there

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were some where'd the money come from

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for that to pay him you got me

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who knows who knows maybe the government

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paid for it maybe yeah maybe the whole

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thing was organized by area 51 whoa what

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about that guys yeah yeah I don't I

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don't know why they would have want to

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deal with eighty seven year olds pissing

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on their gate but hey maybe they just

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didn't see that one coming I mean who

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would that's amazing yeah if she caught

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him by surprise and that's what you got

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to do out there to obscene everything

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again meanwhile she lives she lives out

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here every day what's a storm area51

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crap I will admit though I went out and

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it was just my local grocery store yes

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people we do have grocery stores here in

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size of cats every single day since

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yes you need a leash it's in-laws least

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trained roaches but yeah yeah it's weird

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right you actually like eat like cook

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there and like go to school there yeah

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one of those cases of the cans about

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with the aliens on it so I proudly kept

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a few of those in the box of course just

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had to cuz I was like well they never

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this and it's funny because I posted a

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picture and people like I will give you

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$100 right now it's gonna be like those

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people who sell surged soda cans online

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for like you know two grand or so if I

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really get hard up I know what I'm

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selling first I guess a lot has happened

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since our last conversation you went on

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the road to hunt UFOs you wrote and

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published a book and you're taking the

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book to many different levels we're

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gonna cover all of that but um I'd love

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to start a little with the book itself

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beyond the fray Bigfoot how did this

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book come about and and you mentioned

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the other author and person who got

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involved how did this all happen

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so you know the nice thing about having

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a podcast is the content is already

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there it's it's in a very different form

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obviously but people trust you enough to

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come on and they tell sometimes a story

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that they've they've not even maybe even

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told their spouse or their parents you

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know if they were little or if they told

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their parents their parents kind of

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brushed them off which we've all had

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that experience right as far as their

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own paranormal stories and it's always

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kind of been there I I will admit that I

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have thought about it before but as

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jokingly mentioned but not really

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jokingly it just wasn't really in the

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cards for me to write a book so low and

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and Jeff emailed me and I just I

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gravitated towards him right away

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he's a wonderful writer he is a

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fictional writer and that is to say this

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beyond the fray Bigfoot and nor will the

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others be a fictional works these are

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strictly taken right from the witness's

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mouth and transferred onto paper

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a way that is proper for reading for him

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and you know he just he knows what he's

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doing he's a wonderful writer and

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between the two of us we we chose some

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stories and obviously we had these

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people's permission before they got put

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into the book and you know his his

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fictional background he was but he was

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straight out he's like hey you know I

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write I write westerns and I write

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post-apocalyptic fiction and he is a

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fantastic writer you guys and I was

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telling Ryan like he's just go check him

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out on Amazon G Michael Hoff H opf and

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that is you know and you can find him

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online as well

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jean-michel Hoff calm but he's he's a

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best-selling author and my whole life

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yeah and you know his books are he goes

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down which is me it's got to be so much

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harder to do but he has a you know

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series of books that will follow this

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line and the story line with these

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characters and you know all about

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talking about character development is

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taking a character from a book one to

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book three or four I mean that's just

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you have to have a talent so anyhow I

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teamed up with him and we chose these

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stories now it's not all a hundred

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percent Bigfoot we did put in a few dog

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man stories so you know the the title

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may be slightly misleading but it is

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mostly a Bigfoot book all taken from my

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show but the caveat to that is there are

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several in there that were never aired

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on my show because they were not

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comfortable enough to even do that but

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you know they they got in touch and it

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is in the book and these stories I will

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say are some of my favorites and and

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to say this because it's it's my book

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but even even though I've heard these

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stories firsthand they're I mean they're

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basically I mean not my stories but you

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know I'm saying they're from my show I

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have heard them as you know you you

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record you edit you've heard them again

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through whatever means you know it

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happened

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to come up I will say that even reading

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them it got me again it kind of got me

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for some of these especially some of the

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ones that are more than nail biters and

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they're all kind of on the edge of that

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it'll get you and some of the review so

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far are fantastic guys and thank you so

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much for that and and Ryan knows and we

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we harp this to death even for just our

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podcast but my goodness if you guys have

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you know read either one of our books

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you guys have no idea how much the

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reviews on Amazon helped us out so if

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you could just take those few moments

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and leave that review but you know

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saying I had to keep the lights on I

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read you know the book Shannon is Jeff's

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book and I had to keep the lights on

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really freak me out and or I was sitting

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in a parking lot and I was locking my

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doors I'm like this is fantastic that is

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what we were going for and so far it's

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worked really well

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you're so right Shannon the stories they

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never leave you and no matter how many

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times you hear them that's the same with

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my witness account episodes that I do of

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my show where you know people call in

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and tell their stories and when you're

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editing that's like one thing you're

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trying to make it sound rhythmic or you

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know clean it up or do this but when you

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really sit down and listen to the

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stories from the voice of the people

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experiencing it it brings it to a whole

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other level

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like nothing yeah you could write or I

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could write whatever convey what they

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truly want to say so the fact that a lot

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of these stories in your book come

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directly from the witnesses that's rare

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and that's something you don't get that

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often so I was so happy to see that's

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the way the book was structured and

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there there were a few that really stuck

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out to me and the first one there really

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got to me was a story titled the cries

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of a baby oh one of my favorite may be

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running us through this one a little bit

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yeah I will happily run through this one

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now this one this is one of the stories

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that never aired on my show I I do

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believe that Derek has probably told it

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on other shows but it was not verbally

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told on into the fray so yeah this is

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yeah

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um if you guys are considering going out

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solo to Bigfoot you may change your mind

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so Derek Randle's is and I've met him in

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person fantastic human being all of the

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Olympic project crew Shane Carson David

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Ellis he is the he's the audio guy that

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you guys hear a lot of times will play

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these clips that he has cleaned up and

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nobody does a better job than David

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Ellis at that but that is the Olympic

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project in Washington State so Derek

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Randle's and so this is basically after

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he's he's really caught the bug he

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caught the bug in 85 and that was a

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sighting that he had but what's funny is

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that's not what this story is and

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somehow it will still creep you out so

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this this encounter occurs in in the

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late 90s and he admits that hey I've got

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the Bigfoot bug I'm gonna talk to

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whoever I can I want to talk to the big

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guys and he finds one of the biggest and

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brightest stars in Bigfoot er E and that

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is the renowned Grover Krantz and Derek

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there goes I like to say that he invited

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me over but I'm pretty sure that I kind

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of invited myself over Grover's house

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which who wouldn't right so he goes over

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and he you know they're just they're

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just bullshitting about Bigfoot and the

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ins and outs of it and he's just like so

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I mean you know where would you go

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Grover for the best place to see a big

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fits and and he goes McCall Idaho he's

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like wait call Idaho for Bigfoots

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what so he's so intrigued by this he's

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like okay I'll bite so McCall Idaho

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great so what about you know calling one

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in like what what tactic would you use

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to quote-unquote

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call in a Bigfoot and Grover replies I

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would play the recording of a baby

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crying and I was like okay cool awesome

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lo and behold guess what they have a new

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baby at home so he goes home and he

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proceeds to record his son crying for

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any amount of time whatever it was

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because then and this is probably back

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in the day of a cassette right like a

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lot of you guys out there may not know

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what that is yeah you young uns I still

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have my Vanilla Ice cassette downstairs

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you can hate on me all you want you know

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ride that train Ice Ice Baby yeah I

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don't play it I'll go ninja go yeah

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there's just nothing like a city I have

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no way to play it but I'll never get rid

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of it anyhow no my fault no reason to

391
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bring up Vanilla Ice but I did there you

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go this is what happens this is exactly

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what happened on our intros for into the

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fray to make it anyway necessary yes so

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he records his son crying and he does in

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fact go out to Idaho he goes to I

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believe it was burnt fork in the Blue

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Mountains and okay now let me set the

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tone for Derek Derek is a complete

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badass and he still is to this day he's

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he's he's built very well he's very fit

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he goes out hiking I'm talking for hours

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and hours by himself still to this day

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and he did on this day and he goes out

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for six hours by himself and he hikes

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for six hours in one direction and it's

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starting to get late so he finds a large

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tree with a pretty good vantage point

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and he's basically he's looking out over

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not a ravine per se but you know an open

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area and then it dips into like a creek

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area and he does in fact have like a

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night shot camera it's got like a gen

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three night vision monocular which are

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they're so bad at the Vaughn if you can

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ever play with the monocular guys

417
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amazing it just a little side note here

418
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when you're out going to go bigfooting

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raccoons and deer and even you know if

420
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there happens to be a bird up that late

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for some reason or a squirrel

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they sound like a damn eight-foot-tall

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whatever the hell when they're going

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through the underbrush if it's dry whoa

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if you have something like a binocular

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it's it's very advantageous for you

427
00:19:09,229 --> 00:19:07,589
because you can immediately go well

428
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that's just a little fat little raccoon

429
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over there you know imagine if heavier

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yeah yeah and not to say that people

431
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can't differentiate if you know a

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10-foot tall creature is film being

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through that woods I'm just saying that

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little things can sound very very big

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sometimes so that's a great way to do

436
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that if you can afford one it's

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definitely the way to go that being said

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I don't have one but of course I'm back

439
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in so you know not really much of a

440
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reason right now so anyhow it finally

441
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gets dark out and he I think he actually

442
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says it's pitch black out he hits play

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on this looped recording of his son

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crying and he does in fact admit after

445
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about an hour he gets a headache big

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shocker there right and more time passes

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and he's actually considering shutting

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off because there's absolutely nothing

449
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happening and it's funny because there's

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always the timing of things and as he's

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thinking about shutting it off he hears

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a very loud crash from the opposite side

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of where he's sitting and the smart

454
00:20:18,139 --> 00:20:16,679
thing about there he goes out by himself

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which a lot of people like well that's

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not smart okay but if you met Derek you

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you'd probably understand a little

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better why he's okay doing that but he

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also does go out armed because let's

460
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face it it's probably not for the

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Bigfoots is it's for the the Cougars or

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the psychotic people that you may run

463
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into Micah Hanks has a great story about

464
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running into a real freak in the woods a

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human being which will always stick with

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me the man in the overalls but he does

467
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in fact take his pistol out you know

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just in case

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and five minutes later this this thing

470
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is too like crashing around just making

471
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a ruckus and he can tell it's really

472
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really big and the unfortunate thing is

473
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it's making its way towards him and the

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baby cries are still going he hasn't

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stopped those going

476
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quite yet and he's starting to wonder if

477
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it's such a good idea to be doing this

478
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this is when it dawns on him

479
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he's totally alone yes he has a firearm

480
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but how many times have we heard people

481
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go once I saw it the firearm I was

482
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holding would have done nothing but

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pissed it off I I don't know the exact

484
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gauge of what he was carrying but I can

485
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almost guarantee you he probably say the

486
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same thing so he actually has the

487
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foresight to ready the camera because it

488
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does have a record feature on it with

489
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the pistol in the other hand and the

490
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crashings getting louder and louder and

491
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he's getting more and more scared and

492
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realizing it's a bad idea especially

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when he can hear that it is on two feet

494
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and he knows for sure this is not an

495
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ungulate or anything on on four feet it

496
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is on two and I think at this one he's

497
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describing it as it's like a linebacker

498
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running through the woods which would be

499
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horrifying if you're out in the dark and

500
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you're by yourself so he loses his nerve

501
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he shuts the recorder completely off and

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the crashing stops absolutely

503
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interesting and if you wanted I could go

504
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into story after this that coincides

505
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with this very thing

506
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but yeah the crashing stops which I have

507
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have a story of myself but he the

508
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crashing stops instantly the second he

509
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starts the recorder off and now it

510
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really really gets scary for Derek

511
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because all he hears is extremely deep

512
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heavy raspy breathing and he estimates

513
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this is bet he estimates it was probably

514
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only about 60 feet from him and whatever

515
00:23:00,320 --> 00:22:58,110
this was now keep in mind he cannot see

516
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it it hasn't actually come through that

517
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last part of the wood line across from

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this ravine that he's in or on top of I

519
00:23:13,070 --> 00:23:09,690
apologize so he's listening to this

520
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:13,080
breathing and you know having this perk

521
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come from Derek it was kind of sad and

522
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it bummed me out but at the same time I

523
00:23:22,910 --> 00:23:21,360
completely got it but he said the second

524
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that he heard the breathing and he

525
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:25,020
realized what situation he was in

526
00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:27,840
he was completely done with research at

527
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:30,470
that point he was like I'm out I'm done

528
00:23:36,350 --> 00:23:33,810
this is [\h__\h] it's too much

529
00:23:40,010 --> 00:23:36,360
I mean it's one of those be careful what

530
00:23:42,590 --> 00:23:40,020
you ask for things right so three or

531
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four minutes I think or maybe up to five

532
00:23:47,810 --> 00:23:44,220
minutes this breathing's going on which

533
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:47,820
is a really really really long time you

534
00:23:52,820 --> 00:23:50,250
know that hours for him yeah we both had

535
00:23:56,180 --> 00:23:52,830
sightings that lasted five to whatever

536
00:23:59,630 --> 00:23:56,190
seconds that seemed long enough three or

537
00:24:02,600 --> 00:23:59,640
four minutes is a damn eternity and now

538
00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:02,610
the breathing completely just stops okay

539
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:05,310
and it's silent and he emits like this

540
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:07,200
is almost worse because where the hell

541
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:07,760
is it

542
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:11,370
Oh clue and how it gets that quiet he

543
00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:13,770
doesn't even know so he waits for awhile

544
00:24:20,990 --> 00:24:18,750
and a while turns into morning and he

545
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:21,000
admits he wakes up and the birds are

546
00:24:24,260 --> 00:24:22,530
chirping the sun is shining and he

547
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:24,270
didn't have any of the feelings and the

548
00:24:27,650 --> 00:24:25,770
anxiety that he had the night before

549
00:24:30,530 --> 00:24:27,660
like he felt like he was safe and it was

550
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:30,540
it was probably gone and he did go over

551
00:24:36,290 --> 00:24:34,770
to where his best estimate of which it

552
00:24:38,990 --> 00:24:36,300
wasn't that far so it was pretty good

553
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:39,000
estimation of where this thing would

554
00:24:43,460 --> 00:24:40,650
have been standing and sure enough there

555
00:24:46,970 --> 00:24:43,470
are two extremely large impressions and

556
00:24:50,180 --> 00:24:46,980
a large game trail through the brush

557
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:50,190
leaving that spot so you know to him

558
00:24:56,020 --> 00:24:53,250
he's going okay so yeah that totally

559
00:24:59,560 --> 00:24:56,030
happened and what I thought it was is

560
00:25:02,270 --> 00:24:59,570
probably exactly what that was so he

561
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:02,280
know keep in mind he's still six to

562
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:04,110
eight hours from where he's supposed to

563
00:25:08,350 --> 00:25:06,690
be to his truck to get out of there but

564
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:08,360
he makes it out he says no other

565
00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:11,130
encounters no other sign nothing

566
00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:14,580
happened no creepy feelings but I think

567
00:25:19,070 --> 00:25:17,120
and this is so cool that Derek said this

568
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:19,080
because I've heard him tell this story

569
00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:21,960
in person of course he goes it was just

570
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:26,820
so disrespectful what I did I played the

571
00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:30,930
sound of a baby crying and obviously it

572
00:25:34,510 --> 00:25:33,750
upset this thing so much that it comes

573
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:34,520
it comes

574
00:25:40,810 --> 00:25:38,330
rushing down now goodness knows what was

575
00:25:43,630 --> 00:25:40,820
going through this thing's mind we don't

576
00:25:47,290 --> 00:25:43,640
want to put any you know human emotions

577
00:25:50,830 --> 00:25:47,300
or anything on a Bigfoot we don't know

578
00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:50,840
for sure but it is suspect that you stop

579
00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:53,720
the crying it stops and now he's you

580
00:25:57,070 --> 00:25:55,190
know it was that raspy heavy breathing

581
00:25:59,950 --> 00:25:57,080
because he knows how stressed out he

582
00:26:03,280 --> 00:25:59,960
made it so for him now thankfully

583
00:26:04,810 --> 00:26:03,290
obviously Derek didn't stop researching

584
00:26:07,710 --> 00:26:04,820
obviously he's still doing it to this

585
00:26:10,930 --> 00:26:07,720
day and had other other encounters but

586
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:10,940
for him to go that was so messed up what

587
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:13,010
I did to that Bigfoot that day you know

588
00:26:19,270 --> 00:26:16,490
and it makes you wonder go as far as the

589
00:26:22,150 --> 00:26:19,280
impressions go from what I've heard him

590
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:22,160
like in person tell me it sounded like

591
00:26:27,550 --> 00:26:25,010
it was a male but you would think you

592
00:26:28,990 --> 00:26:27,560
would think it was a female caring why

593
00:26:30,970 --> 00:26:29,000
is a baby crying but it could have been

594
00:26:34,090 --> 00:26:30,980
almost like it was concerned for the

595
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:34,100
child oh yeah

596
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:37,730
he's like what what if I want to shut

597
00:26:44,710 --> 00:26:40,690
that off and it came through and so II

598
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:44,720
what would it happen oh my god be here

599
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:47,120
yeah I mean that's you know that's one

600
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:49,730
of the on the no list I have my no list

601
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:52,910
and he like that's no I mean but that's

602
00:27:00,550 --> 00:26:56,080
the power of it because he didn't see

603
00:27:02,830 --> 00:27:00,560
anything right it was scarier absolutely

604
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:02,840
well yeah and there's the other thing

605
00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:04,250
too right because you're thinking of uh

606
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:07,070
and we've heard reports which sounds

607
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:10,000
astonishing and I people say this but

608
00:27:15,070 --> 00:27:12,890
take up tape measure guys and going I've

609
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:15,080
done it before early on my days of

610
00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:17,330
sasquatch Chronicles we had someone come

611
00:27:21,730 --> 00:27:20,470
on and go excuse me yeah I saw a

612
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:21,740
ten-foot tall

613
00:27:27,370 --> 00:27:23,840
sat and you're like 10 feet that's tall

614
00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:27,380
no no get a tape measure take it from

615
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:31,430
the floor up to ten feet oh my goodness

616
00:27:38,410 --> 00:27:35,690
talk about [\h__\h] your pants I mean if

617
00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:38,420
any of them do get that big which why

618
00:27:42,820 --> 00:27:39,980
couldn't if they get eight feet tall I

619
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:42,830
mean because look at human beings again

620
00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:45,560
not to put anamorphic qualities on the

621
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:48,080
Bigfoot but there's that you know we've

622
00:27:50,529 --> 00:27:48,350
got

623
00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:50,539
the very very tall human being if you

624
00:27:56,770 --> 00:27:53,350
ever saw something that big that's why

625
00:27:59,980 --> 00:27:56,780
it's it's so important that these people

626
00:28:01,539 --> 00:27:59,990
actually agree to come forward

627
00:28:03,820 --> 00:28:01,549
you know they talk to you they talk to

628
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:03,830
me they talk to Jim or Micah or whoever

629
00:28:09,250 --> 00:28:06,410
it is it changed their lives

630
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:09,260
you know these it changed everything and

631
00:28:14,590 --> 00:28:12,110
some of these people have never gone in

632
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:14,600
the woods again you know there's another

633
00:28:22,210 --> 00:28:18,320
great story from the book where he saw

634
00:28:24,490 --> 00:28:22,220
the Bigfoot holding something and what

635
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:24,500
the Bigfoot was holding was enough for

636
00:28:31,060 --> 00:28:29,120
him to go oh hell no they have you know

637
00:28:33,549 --> 00:28:31,070
there are other things going on out

638
00:28:35,529 --> 00:28:33,559
there and yeah they have to eat right I

639
00:28:39,220 --> 00:28:35,539
mean what do you what can you say to

640
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:39,230
that so anyway that that is Derick story

641
00:28:47,049 --> 00:28:44,000
and if that doesn't lay and he fears as

642
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:47,059
to uh gee I mean should I go out you

643
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:52,490
know eight eight hour want to do it

644
00:28:57,460 --> 00:28:55,370
again you know you said you have a story

645
00:28:59,250 --> 00:28:57,470
to that's kind of connected to this to

646
00:29:03,210 --> 00:28:59,260
this are you willing to share that

647
00:29:06,130 --> 00:29:03,220
absolutely and I'm sure that some of the

648
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:06,140
the phrases which you know I think you

649
00:29:11,049 --> 00:29:08,450
coined that term didn't you - yes baby

650
00:29:13,659 --> 00:29:11,059
that's yeah I'm getting that coin every

651
00:29:17,230 --> 00:29:13,669
time someone says it that rylos guys

652
00:29:19,539 --> 00:29:17,240
okay crazy is rylos that's like that

653
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,549
dude who tried to copyright secret space

654
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:21,440
program come on dude

655
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:24,080
well I never heard about that it is an

656
00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:25,940
actual thing a guy tried to come on

657
00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:28,190
earth copyright the term secret space

658
00:29:32,380 --> 00:29:29,929
program anyways we don't want to give

659
00:29:38,049 --> 00:29:32,390
him any airtime so well that's just

660
00:29:40,060 --> 00:29:38,059
painful silly dumb yeah so yes so the

661
00:29:45,370 --> 00:29:40,070
recording I made at the recording yeah

662
00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:45,380
so Washington State oh my god I'm so bad

663
00:29:50,380 --> 00:29:48,470
with years 2014 I believe we went to the

664
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:50,390
brown property in Washington State I was

665
00:29:56,820 --> 00:29:53,690
still on Sasquatch Chronicles and you

666
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:56,830
know Sarah and John Brown they with

667
00:30:01,390 --> 00:29:59,360
members of actually the Olympic project

668
00:30:02,260 --> 00:30:01,400
captured the quote unquote

669
00:30:04,810 --> 00:30:02,270
line back

670
00:30:07,270 --> 00:30:04,820
on the ridge thermal that is the one

671
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:07,280
that looks like if you take Jay Cutler

672
00:30:13,570 --> 00:30:10,250
and just shaved his head and you just

673
00:30:17,410 --> 00:30:13,580
took him from like the pardon me but the

674
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:17,420
nipples up okay so his his pecs and his

675
00:30:22,210 --> 00:30:19,490
massive traps and his shoulders and his

676
00:30:24,970 --> 00:30:22,220
head on a thermal that's what it looked

677
00:30:27,010 --> 00:30:24,980
like anyhow we can put that in the show

678
00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:27,020
notes for you folks go to somewhere in

679
00:30:36,130 --> 00:30:32,750
this guy's inside joke so we're out of

680
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,140
the brown property and were I don't it

681
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:38,720
must have probably been John or Sarah in

682
00:30:42,790 --> 00:30:40,880
relation to Derek's story to be honest

683
00:30:45,910 --> 00:30:42,800
with you so that's why it ties in so

684
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:45,920
well but we're like okay well because

685
00:30:51,070 --> 00:30:47,840
now you don't have to tape your son now

686
00:30:53,620 --> 00:30:51,080
you just get on YouTube and you play a

687
00:30:56,140 --> 00:30:53,630
baby cry and we did that so we're

688
00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:56,150
playing the baby crying and it had been

689
00:31:00,130 --> 00:30:58,730
a while and Derek's right it sucks to

690
00:31:01,870 --> 00:31:00,140
listen to something like that and it

691
00:31:05,410 --> 00:31:01,880
wasn't like we had it on big speakers or

692
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:05,420
anything and sorry backstory Brown

693
00:31:12,010 --> 00:31:08,330
property very active Sarah and her

694
00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:12,020
husband had had numerous sightings of

695
00:31:16,810 --> 00:31:15,230
Sasquatch in and around this area their

696
00:31:18,580 --> 00:31:16,820
property looked out on a you know a

697
00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:18,590
valley yes there are other people around

698
00:31:25,180 --> 00:31:20,750
but not 8-foot tall

699
00:31:27,549 --> 00:31:25,190
you know 800-pound ones so they believe

700
00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:27,559
they're experiencing Sasquatch so we go

701
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:30,440
out there and we're playing the baby cry

702
00:31:35,470 --> 00:31:33,710
and I'd have to go back to my notes

703
00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:35,480
because I hate miss speaking about times

704
00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:37,190
and stuff because I understand that

705
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:39,950
people are very they'll get you on that

706
00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:41,809
and they should it could have been

707
00:31:47,260 --> 00:31:44,840
playing anywhere from 30 to 45 minutes

708
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:47,270
guys I don't know I'd have to go back to

709
00:31:51,940 --> 00:31:49,250
my notes but this just came in to

710
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:51,950
perfectly to tie it in Derick story and

711
00:32:04,200 --> 00:31:53,840
I haven't told in a while we're playing

712
00:32:07,299 --> 00:32:04,210
the baby cry and sure as [\h__\h] we get and

713
00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:07,309
whoops are something you got to have

714
00:32:16,220 --> 00:32:12,520
some lips to do so three in a row always

715
00:32:19,580 --> 00:32:16,230
and it would wait a couple few minutes

716
00:32:24,979 --> 00:32:19,590
and do it again like oh [\h__\h] is just

717
00:32:28,220 --> 00:32:24,989
really going down and it was Boop just

718
00:32:30,590 --> 00:32:28,230
like that and it one point it stopped

719
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:30,600
and then it moved from I would say our

720
00:32:38,029 --> 00:32:33,570
two o'clock position back to probably I

721
00:32:41,299 --> 00:32:38,039
don't know maybe if a five o'clock

722
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:41,309
position so we felt like it was it was

723
00:32:47,499 --> 00:32:44,580
flanking something's going on here again

724
00:32:52,099 --> 00:32:47,509
like there cuz might be stressing it out

725
00:32:54,619 --> 00:32:52,109
and it sounded even Wes agree sounded

726
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:54,629
very very singsong which was interesting

727
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:57,570
so again not trying to assume it was a

728
00:33:02,109 --> 00:32:59,279
female sasquatch or anything that would

729
00:33:04,940 --> 00:33:02,119
care about a baby cry but it sounded

730
00:33:06,769 --> 00:33:04,950
singsong and I'm not even gonna I don't

731
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:06,779
sing I'm not a singer so I'm not gonna

732
00:33:13,430 --> 00:33:11,039
try to perfectly yeah it was so it was

733
00:33:15,499 --> 00:33:13,440
the three loops but it was very singsong

734
00:33:17,479 --> 00:33:15,509
almost you know pretty like you know

735
00:33:22,879 --> 00:33:17,489
like I'm like he like some kind of a

736
00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:22,889
lady SAS quaddle might do and so that's

737
00:33:26,450 --> 00:33:24,840
interesting and of note of course we

738
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,460
cannot see it so I cannot say it was a

739
00:33:32,269 --> 00:33:28,799
sasquatch for sure I will never ever say

740
00:33:33,710 --> 00:33:32,279
that because it didn't see but it's

741
00:33:39,649 --> 00:33:33,720
playing it's playing it swooping it

742
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:39,659
swooping and finally the phone dice it

743
00:33:46,669 --> 00:33:42,450
had been playing for I don't know an

744
00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:46,679
hour maybe less total and the phone dies

745
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:49,590
and the second the phone dies the whoops

746
00:33:52,639 --> 00:33:50,970
completely stopped

747
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:52,649
we don't hear crashing we don't hear

748
00:33:58,129 --> 00:33:55,679
footsteps we hear no more whoops nothing

749
00:34:02,869 --> 00:33:58,139
and as far as we could tell it was only

750
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:02,879
the one whatever it was and so yeah I

751
00:34:06,649 --> 00:34:04,289
mean that's you know that's just my

752
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:06,659
quick tie into that but I that's my

753
00:34:12,700 --> 00:34:09,089
first-hand experience with playing a

754
00:34:14,690 --> 00:34:12,710
baby crying a very annoying sound and

755
00:34:18,289 --> 00:34:14,700
quote-unquote calling something in

756
00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:18,299
there's something to it it sounded big I

757
00:34:22,940 --> 00:34:19,740
bet so I mean and I've said that before

758
00:34:25,099 --> 00:34:22,950
about the whistle in Salt Fork I it's

759
00:34:27,289 --> 00:34:25,109
hard to explain and even if you had it

760
00:34:30,110 --> 00:34:27,299
on a recording it wouldn't come across

761
00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:30,120
this way ever so you guys that are like

762
00:34:34,190 --> 00:34:32,160
where's the recording well even if I had

763
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,200
it even if Wes and I had that it

764
00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:36,240
wouldn't it wouldn't come across I'm

765
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:38,070
sorry it wouldn't even translate and it

766
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:40,050
was raining it was Washington State so

767
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:41,970
yeah it's cream with we didn't have a

768
00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:44,370
lot that a lot of that stuff oh right

769
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:46,470
and it's the same with you know videos

770
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:48,510
people always say that you know it was

771
00:34:53,180 --> 00:34:50,930
it was cylindrical it was you know

772
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:53,190
self-illuminating it I could see you

773
00:34:56,150 --> 00:34:54,930
like you know machinery on the craft and

774
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:56,160
then you look at the video and she said

775
00:35:02,720 --> 00:34:59,760
a white dot in the sky it's like that's

776
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:02,730
why video evidence and audio like it's

777
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:05,370
good when you have it but you can't base

778
00:35:10,070 --> 00:35:07,410
everything off of that the witness

779
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:10,080
testimony you know when you then put

780
00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:11,910
that with the video and audio that's

781
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:13,950
when you get like the full story

782
00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:16,110
you know man there's nothing more

783
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:20,900
annoying than night video of UFO I know

784
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:24,560
I'm sorry but it could literally be

785
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:27,720
anything I mean did you see that recent

786
00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:30,690
video from here means being Sam we're

787
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:32,190
going back and forth about it it was

788
00:35:36,350 --> 00:35:34,050
very bright and it looks like it's

789
00:35:38,270 --> 00:35:36,360
pulsating but the problem is in the very

790
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,280
beginning of the video when you look at

791
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:40,560
the ground even the street lights and

792
00:35:45,860 --> 00:35:42,810
all the the house lights and everything

793
00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:45,870
of Vegas is strobing and and flashing

794
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:47,460
exactly the same because it's just the

795
00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:50,160
framerate and the way that his phone or

796
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:51,780
whatever he was shooting it on picked it

797
00:36:00,860 --> 00:35:58,320
up and look at PC 135 and Las Vegas

798
00:36:03,350 --> 00:36:00,870
Metro just got I mean we're talking like

799
00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:03,360
eight million dollar aircraft ec1 it's

800
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,150
not a 135 it's another tail number for

801
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:08,640
that but they have two lights on their

802
00:36:14,930 --> 00:36:11,040
tails one right over the rear rotor

803
00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:14,940
blade and one on the actual the tail

804
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:17,150
that runs from the body to the rotor and

805
00:36:22,730 --> 00:36:21,330
it's a helicopter guys like I mean we

806
00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:22,740
got to have some critical thinking here

807
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:24,900
like it's you know it's a cool video and

808
00:36:27,950 --> 00:36:27,450
everything but I'm yeah geez it's never

809
00:36:32,090 --> 00:36:27,960
gonna

810
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:32,100
the actual testimony of the witness in

811
00:36:37,850 --> 00:36:35,670
my opinion Seth chin you know a lot

812
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:37,860
about aircraft what the hell where you

813
00:36:43,460 --> 00:36:40,110
been hiding this all this man you're

814
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:43,470
talking about errs and lights

815
00:36:49,970 --> 00:36:47,490
like please go knives no I just you know

816
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:49,980
it's it's just it is just frustrating

817
00:36:54,589 --> 00:36:52,410
because especially video like that I

818
00:36:56,839 --> 00:36:54,599
want to send it to you so you can you

819
00:36:59,500 --> 00:36:56,849
can see it is just it wasn't like a

820
00:37:02,900 --> 00:36:59,510
tic-tac video where it's doing insane

821
00:37:04,370 --> 00:37:02,910
maneuvers you know ninety degrees and

822
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:04,380
makes a stop and then does a

823
00:37:10,370 --> 00:37:08,250
loop-the-loop like I'm Nicole when it

824
00:37:13,550 --> 00:37:10,380
comes to videos no and I shouldn't like

825
00:37:17,330 --> 00:37:13,560
I need to be open-minded and patient but

826
00:37:20,359 --> 00:37:17,340
any time a witness sends me a video like

827
00:37:22,130 --> 00:37:20,369
I automatically say it's a drone it's

828
00:37:24,830 --> 00:37:22,140
right that's a drone it's a plane plane

829
00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:24,840
drone that's a drone that's a drone

830
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:27,630
that's a drone oh look a drone and I

831
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:30,030
shouldn't another drone Amazon drone you

832
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:32,250
know what I wasn't there and I always

833
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:34,710
tell people this and that's why I never

834
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:37,200
judge a witness is I wasn't there when

835
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:39,420
this event happened so I gotta get

836
00:37:43,130 --> 00:37:41,280
better at that I I'm airing my

837
00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:43,140
grievances live here on somewhere in the

838
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:46,500
skies if I've ever like discounted a

839
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:48,570
video you've sent me outright I

840
00:37:52,220 --> 00:37:49,680
apologize

841
00:37:54,349 --> 00:37:52,230
I'm just when you see a million of these

842
00:37:57,950 --> 00:37:54,359
videos a day and most of them are

843
00:38:00,500 --> 00:37:57,960
hoaxster clearly misidentified like it's

844
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:00,510
hard it's hard to to stay passionate

845
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:03,089
about it sometimes but then you get that

846
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:05,250
one piece of evidence or that one case

847
00:38:11,570 --> 00:38:08,609
where I'm back in it baby let's do this

848
00:38:12,349 --> 00:38:11,580
ah the fire is lit again and sometimes

849
00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:12,359
that's all it takes

850
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:15,750
it is I'm you're so right like every

851
00:38:21,140 --> 00:38:17,450
time I think I've heard everything

852
00:38:23,180 --> 00:38:21,150
someone hits you you know hits in the

853
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:23,190
head with something incredible we're

854
00:38:30,109 --> 00:38:26,490
gonna move on to another story in depth

855
00:38:33,020 --> 00:38:30,119
that I would love together whoa wow that

856
00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:33,030
I would love to cover call hours get to

857
00:38:38,420 --> 00:38:36,740
colors are good taste the rainbow baby

858
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:38,430
um

859
00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:42,480
talking about the Al Pacino movie here

860
00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:44,460
I'm just gonna go out early yeah

861
00:38:50,270 --> 00:38:46,680
fortunately for these two kids it was

862
00:38:52,220 --> 00:38:50,280
not Scarface and Al Pacino because it

863
00:38:55,060 --> 00:38:52,230
would have been better to see Ethan Al

864
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:55,070
Pacino covered in a mountain of cocaine

865
00:39:00,490 --> 00:38:57,920
than what they saw that day so yeah this

866
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,500
one this would happen in my neck of the

867
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:02,240
woods holy [\h__\h] okay so this happened in

868
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:04,910
New York I got yeah it's like 50 miles

869
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:07,910
north of New York City in Bear Mountain

870
00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:10,910
and honestly this is again on the no

871
00:39:16,450 --> 00:39:13,550
list and I kind of hinted it during

872
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:16,460
Derek story so we have a young man he's

873
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:19,040
around 13 years old and he's in a summer

874
00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:20,720
day camp and that means you go out in

875
00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:23,750
the morning and you go home you're back

876
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:25,460
home by the evening time so they would

877
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:27,770
take them to various places in and

878
00:39:33,130 --> 00:39:30,410
around New York State every day and on

879
00:39:37,630 --> 00:39:33,140
this particular day they are going to

880
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:37,640
Bear Mountain State Park and it is 50

881
00:39:43,930 --> 00:39:40,640
miles north of New York City itself so

882
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:43,940
not very far keep that in mind as I'm

883
00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:46,960
telling the story very impressive and

884
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:50,390
terrifying and pretty messed up so and

885
00:39:54,910 --> 00:39:52,610
also this does sit along in the Hudson

886
00:39:56,830 --> 00:39:54,920
River which is also kind of interesting

887
00:40:01,000 --> 00:39:56,840
when you're talking about Bigfoot they

888
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:01,010
need food cover and shelter so Bear

889
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:04,880
Mountain encompasses about I think 5,000

890
00:40:10,810 --> 00:40:09,170
acres and okay so they've got the

891
00:40:13,540 --> 00:40:10,820
chaperones the adults right and then

892
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:13,550
they've got the kids and I don't have

893
00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:15,110
the number of kids that they had but

894
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:16,760
they all start hiking and they take a

895
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:20,000
break for lunch and Chris is his name

896
00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:23,090
that is a subject of my interview he

897
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:26,270
admits we were kind of rebellious teens

898
00:40:31,330 --> 00:40:28,730
at the time and another kiddin myself

899
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:31,340
wanted to we want to go off and have a

900
00:40:37,870 --> 00:40:33,470
ciggy so they want to go off and have a

901
00:40:41,770 --> 00:40:37,880
cigarette and they separated and they

902
00:40:44,290 --> 00:40:41,780
walked quite a ways away from the group

903
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:44,300
and they they admit they kind of kept

904
00:40:49,660 --> 00:40:46,970
here on something but hey they're in New

905
00:40:52,330 --> 00:40:49,670
York in the woods it could be literally

906
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,340
anything as I mentioned before raccoon a

907
00:40:58,300 --> 00:40:54,560
squirrel a deer even something small

908
00:41:01,240 --> 00:40:58,310
sounds quite large in in dry undergrowth

909
00:41:03,370 --> 00:41:01,250
so it's kind of above them but they

910
00:41:06,610 --> 00:41:03,380
didn't think much of it they they keep

911
00:41:08,339 --> 00:41:06,620
going until they they find a good spot

912
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:08,349
away from the group say

913
00:41:13,769 --> 00:41:10,450
smell the smoke for the chaperones they

914
00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:13,779
light their cigarettes and Chris says

915
00:41:19,319 --> 00:41:16,630
that he naked now this one is on my show

916
00:41:22,829 --> 00:41:19,329
so if you wanted here it is available

917
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:22,839
for you he turns and he looks at his

918
00:41:29,759 --> 00:41:26,940
friend and he sees an utter just mask of

919
00:41:34,019 --> 00:41:29,769
nothing but terror on his friends face

920
00:41:36,509 --> 00:41:34,029
and best part is just his friend just

921
00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:36,519
decides to just up and run which hey I

922
00:41:42,259 --> 00:41:39,190
cannot blame this kid you made a really

923
00:41:47,249 --> 00:41:42,269
good decision as you will soon find out

924
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:47,259
the kid turns and runs and he goes oh

925
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,410
well crap I mean with wood is this [\h__\h]

926
00:41:56,249 --> 00:41:52,720
I so he turns he goes well maybe it's a

927
00:42:03,180 --> 00:41:56,259
bear or something he turns and not ten

928
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:03,190
feet away ten feet guys ten feet nope he

929
00:42:10,349 --> 00:42:06,930
saw what he described was a huge

930
00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:10,359
gray-haired man and you know this is his

931
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:15,390
lake his brain going you know man

932
00:42:21,329 --> 00:42:18,729
monster it looks like a man but no

933
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:21,339
that's a that's a messed up monster so

934
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:23,650
he says it's the tallest bipedal

935
00:42:28,349 --> 00:42:27,249
creature he's ever ever seen and it

936
00:42:33,299 --> 00:42:28,359
stood now here we go

937
00:42:34,799 --> 00:42:33,309
it's the 9 to 10 feet tall so again I it

938
00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:34,809
is really actually pretty cool to do I

939
00:42:40,410 --> 00:42:36,700
encourage everybody to do it just really

940
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:40,420
quickly tape-measure Florida to 10 feet

941
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:42,609
tall and then you're gonna go holy [\h__\h]

942
00:42:50,729 --> 00:42:47,170
alright this is the part where a it gets

943
00:42:54,209 --> 00:42:50,739
kind of almost it'll it'll bring up some

944
00:42:56,430 --> 00:42:54,219
of it rollin people because they go well

945
00:42:58,709 --> 00:42:56,440
there they're not like that they

946
00:43:01,620 --> 00:42:58,719
wouldn't do that but you have to

947
00:43:04,289 --> 00:43:01,630
remember that they're not like us and

948
00:43:06,809 --> 00:43:04,299
they have to eat and they do things that

949
00:43:08,759 --> 00:43:06,819
maybe you wouldn't maybe think that they

950
00:43:10,769 --> 00:43:08,769
should do or that you'd want them to do

951
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:10,779
so keep that in mind as they go into the

952
00:43:17,549 --> 00:43:13,359
next part Chris says in its right hand

953
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:17,559
it held a half of a dog by its neck the

954
00:43:21,730 --> 00:43:20,170
other half is gone and just the entrails

955
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:21,740
are hanging out

956
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:23,510
I said what kind of dog was it he said

957
00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:27,290
it was like a lab type of dog it had

958
00:43:32,530 --> 00:43:28,760
been dead for a little while because

959
00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:32,540
some of the the blood was dry on it the

960
00:43:38,830 --> 00:43:35,840
other side to this in a very disturbing

961
00:43:41,590 --> 00:43:38,840
sight is in his left hand it held either

962
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:41,600
a blanket or a garment of clothing he

963
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:44,480
could not tell which one it was very

964
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:46,850
very disturbing take that as you will

965
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:49,280
nobody knows we still don't notice this

966
00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:53,210
thing he does stand in front of it he's

967
00:43:57,070 --> 00:43:54,140
in shock

968
00:43:59,380 --> 00:43:57,080
these stands for a moment longer and

969
00:44:03,460 --> 00:43:59,390
gets a little bit more of a view of this

970
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:03,470
thing broad very muscular chest five

971
00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:05,680
feet across again take the tape measure

972
00:44:13,390 --> 00:44:08,750
very shocking five feet across

973
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:13,400
I stand five six so holy [\h__\h] five feet

974
00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:15,770
across the chest sparsely covered in

975
00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:19,369
here where did have hair it was gray and

976
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:21,940
where the hair didn't cover the skin was

977
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:26,240
more a brown color had very long very

978
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:28,310
thick arm I was like tree trunks he said

979
00:44:33,730 --> 00:44:31,550
and he he didn't feel like he needed to

980
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:33,740
like just glanced at the face and keep

981
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:35,570
in mind he's 13 years old so he's

982
00:44:39,609 --> 00:44:37,490
probably not as tall as he would be as

983
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:39,619
an adult so he was standing probably

984
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:41,930
chest level and so he had to make the

985
00:44:47,859 --> 00:44:45,200
effort to look up at his face and he

986
00:44:49,660 --> 00:44:47,869
said when he did for the brief second

987
00:44:51,580 --> 00:44:49,670
but that's all that you need we all know

988
00:44:53,170 --> 00:44:51,590
that that that have had any experiences

989
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:53,180
like this a brief second is all you need

990
00:44:57,940 --> 00:44:55,130
for your brain to just just soak in that

991
00:45:00,970 --> 00:44:57,950
information so he said it did remind him

992
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:00,980
more of a gorilla or an ape not of the

993
00:45:07,210 --> 00:45:04,130
human type that we hear about large

994
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:07,220
round and brown the face with very

995
00:45:12,099 --> 00:45:08,930
little hair on it

996
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:12,109
flat nose and teeth very much not like

997
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:15,920
ours large black eyes shaped like a

998
00:45:21,340 --> 00:45:18,410
human and here's where the name comes

999
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:21,350
from for the chapter is it had two scars

1000
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:24,890
one across its forehead and one across

1001
00:45:28,570 --> 00:45:26,570
its cheek which I think that the one

1002
00:45:32,410 --> 00:45:28,580
across its cheek was quite a bit deeper

1003
00:45:34,270 --> 00:45:32,420
if I remember correctly and it's grey

1004
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:34,280
hair was actually matted in some places

1005
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:35,510
like it was kind of dirty

1006
00:45:40,060 --> 00:45:37,490
like it hadn't hopped in the Hudson

1007
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:40,070
River like it should've they had some

1008
00:45:45,730 --> 00:45:44,570
things stuck to it which to me and you

1009
00:45:47,170 --> 00:45:45,740
know this Ryan when you're talking to

1010
00:45:48,850 --> 00:45:47,180
somebody you get a sense of if they're

1011
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:48,860
lying or not you just do even though

1012
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:50,950
you're not in person you you get more

1013
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:54,530
adept at this thing and you know for

1014
00:45:58,780 --> 00:45:56,510
people to come up with with details like

1015
00:46:02,230 --> 00:45:58,790
well ahead sticks and mud or [\h__\h] or

1016
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:02,240
whatever stuck to its hair why come up

1017
00:46:06,460 --> 00:46:04,370
with details like that and be able to

1018
00:46:08,110 --> 00:46:06,470
tell it over and over again I don't know

1019
00:46:10,090 --> 00:46:08,120
it's not impossible I'm just saying

1020
00:46:12,220 --> 00:46:10,100
those are things that stick out to me

1021
00:46:13,810 --> 00:46:12,230
and when you hear somebody with their

1022
00:46:15,370 --> 00:46:13,820
inflection and their voice telling a

1023
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:15,380
story like this you're like holy [\h__\h]

1024
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:18,650
this guy really saw this that's nope so

1025
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:22,160
that's that's something he's standing in

1026
00:46:28,540 --> 00:46:26,480
front of and he goes okay well my friend

1027
00:46:30,820 --> 00:46:28,550
had a write in the onset I'm gonna get

1028
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:30,830
the hell out of here so he takes off

1029
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:33,890
and unfortunately for Chris he's the

1030
00:46:40,180 --> 00:46:36,710
last one out and doesn't know if it's

1031
00:46:42,580 --> 00:46:40,190
following him so he's running as fast as

1032
00:46:44,830 --> 00:46:42,590
he can and he does get back to camp with

1033
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:44,840
all the kids and the counselors and he

1034
00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:47,570
sees the other kid which I never got his

1035
00:46:52,180 --> 00:46:50,480
name he sees him sitting there and the

1036
00:46:54,610 --> 00:46:52,190
counselor is like talking to him and he

1037
00:46:56,610 --> 00:46:54,620
can tell the kid is very upset and he

1038
00:46:58,990 --> 00:46:56,620
doesn't know what the kids saying but

1039
00:47:02,530 --> 00:46:59,000
the kid would not make any eye contact

1040
00:47:06,910 --> 00:47:02,540
with him and they get in the bus to go

1041
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:06,920
home and he's like dude like what did we

1042
00:47:11,650 --> 00:47:09,290
just see and this kid refuses to talk to

1043
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:11,660
Chris about what just happened and you

1044
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,370
know something that I remember asking

1045
00:47:17,770 --> 00:47:15,440
him was well have you talked to him you

1046
00:47:20,410 --> 00:47:17,780
know in these years past he's like he

1047
00:47:22,420 --> 00:47:20,420
still refuses to talk about this

1048
00:47:25,290 --> 00:47:22,430
incident he's still in contact with him

1049
00:47:29,110 --> 00:47:25,300
but they do not talk about this day and

1050
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:29,120
he admits that those 10 seconds changed

1051
00:47:36,580 --> 00:47:33,410
his life he still has nightmares and it

1052
00:47:39,940 --> 00:47:36,590
took him a really really long time to go

1053
00:47:42,010 --> 00:47:39,950
back in the woods and and just at ease

1054
00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:42,020
he did go back in the woods again and

1055
00:47:47,470 --> 00:47:44,390
have another very interesting experience

1056
00:47:49,690 --> 00:47:47,480
which is in the book but you know the

1057
00:47:51,970 --> 00:47:49,700
big question of course of the story is

1058
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:51,980
the dog thing can shock some people but

1059
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:53,680
to me that's not that shocking because

1060
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:56,450
yeah yeah like I feel like they're

1061
00:48:01,150 --> 00:47:59,359
opportunists just as anything would be

1062
00:48:03,579 --> 00:48:01,160
in the woods because it's a hard life

1063
00:48:05,710 --> 00:48:03,589
you're always fighting for food and

1064
00:48:06,940 --> 00:48:05,720
shelter and water and you know you're

1065
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:06,950
running if you're running from people

1066
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:08,690
that's a whole other side of the story

1067
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:12,290
for these things I'm sure so if it comes

1068
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:14,930
across a dog I mean I felt horrible for

1069
00:48:19,410 --> 00:48:17,450
the dog of course I love dogs but you

1070
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:19,420
know that's one side the other side

1071
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:22,640
literally is what it was holding in his

1072
00:48:27,940 --> 00:48:25,609
left hand and that is the Coleman was it

1073
00:48:31,630 --> 00:48:27,950
the dog's blanket was it a person's

1074
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:31,640
clothing you know was it a human blanket

1075
00:48:36,550 --> 00:48:34,010
not the dog's blanket out of a tent or

1076
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:36,560
something I mean you're an upstate New

1077
00:48:40,270 --> 00:48:38,810
York where or is it up no that's not

1078
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:40,280
well would that be considered upstate

1079
00:48:49,150 --> 00:48:46,400
yeah I'm absolutely okay well thank

1080
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:49,160
goodness sometimes we're just like

1081
00:48:52,690 --> 00:48:51,050
plowing through and I'm like up staying

1082
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:52,700
you were appear like that is not upstate

1083
00:48:58,030 --> 00:48:55,910
woman I'm so you have a lot of campers

1084
00:49:02,260 --> 00:48:58,040
right a lot of hikers a lot outdoors

1085
00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:02,270
people I mean God knows what this thing

1086
00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:05,390
came across and I don't know I mean we

1087
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:06,950
don't know what goes on out there in the

1088
00:49:11,620 --> 00:49:09,170
woods do you guys really know that a

1089
00:49:12,370 --> 00:49:11,630
Bigfoot would never eat a person do you

1090
00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:12,380
know that

1091
00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:15,230
I mean people they they're like a gas

1092
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:17,180
when I you know if anything ever comes

1093
00:49:23,410 --> 00:49:19,910
up like that it's oh god no they're you

1094
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,420
know they're the forest friends yeah oh

1095
00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:25,520
yeah they're totally vegans yeah I'm

1096
00:49:29,740 --> 00:49:27,140
sure that they get all their protein

1097
00:49:30,730 --> 00:49:29,750
from plant matter you see this the size

1098
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:30,740
of those things

1099
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:33,290
are you serious do you have macadamia

1100
00:49:41,859 --> 00:49:38,510
oil have those polyps 2-0 noodles that

1101
00:49:45,370 --> 00:49:41,869
you can get at Walmart or yeah shirataki

1102
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:45,380
those bees treated that you put that

1103
00:49:50,290 --> 00:49:47,089
honey in my tea

1104
00:49:52,420 --> 00:49:50,300
so we've just I needed another 20

1105
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:52,430
percent of our listening I'm so sorry

1106
00:49:57,579 --> 00:49:55,250
for you organic vegan hippies out there

1107
00:49:59,800 --> 00:49:57,589
I love you to death they're probably a

1108
00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:59,810
lot of my new-age listeners said I love

1109
00:50:03,340 --> 00:50:01,760
you I love you happy blossom it's just

1110
00:50:08,590 --> 00:50:03,350
like these things Oh

1111
00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:08,600
on the low-end low-end six feet tall 400

1112
00:50:13,570 --> 00:50:10,400
pounds you really think they're eating

1113
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:13,580
bark and plant matter and a couple of

1114
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:15,770
deer if they can catch him like why

1115
00:50:21,340 --> 00:50:19,570
wouldn't they if they're opportunists

1116
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:21,350
why wouldn't they

1117
00:50:26,770 --> 00:50:24,410
I'm just saying yeah it is had to have

1118
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:26,780
happened and okay maybe the bulk of them

1119
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:28,970
don't because they know if you kill one

1120
00:50:34,980 --> 00:50:31,310
person you're gonna get 50 of them

1121
00:50:37,810 --> 00:50:34,990
looking for that person bad idea

1122
00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:37,820
absolutely absolutely

1123
00:50:42,310 --> 00:50:39,980
and David smart for not coming out and

1124
00:50:44,530 --> 00:50:42,320
saying well you know it's Bigfoot or

1125
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:44,540
it's aliens or whatever he he thinks it

1126
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:45,770
is he's very smart for doing that I

1127
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:47,330
don't blame him for not coming out and

1128
00:50:53,980 --> 00:50:51,200
saying what he thinks it is but if you

1129
00:50:57,100 --> 00:50:53,990
have just like people again not trying

1130
00:50:58,720 --> 00:50:57,110
to put human traits on a Bigfoot there's

1131
00:51:01,600 --> 00:50:58,730
got to be some screwed-up Bigfoot out

1132
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:01,610
there that go against Bigfoot rules I

1133
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:04,070
want to see skies Sasquatch one on one

1134
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:06,170
book one of these days like yours what

1135
00:51:13,210 --> 00:51:09,370
not to do a whole don't get caught jerk

1136
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:13,220
that go out and they do these things you

1137
00:51:18,790 --> 00:51:15,200
know those snatch a dog or snatch a

1138
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:18,800
person and and take those risks because

1139
00:51:23,410 --> 00:51:21,650
they are hungry and you know depending

1140
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:23,420
on the time of year or the scarcity of

1141
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:26,720
food or whatever might be going on we

1142
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:28,880
hear stories of people that think the

1143
00:51:32,980 --> 00:51:31,010
Bigfoot have the Klan's or family units

1144
00:51:35,470 --> 00:51:32,990
and and some of them get banished for

1145
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:35,480
whatever reason and that guy is a rogue

1146
00:51:39,730 --> 00:51:37,370
the you know the word is rogue but

1147
00:51:42,340 --> 00:51:39,740
that's very technical for like actual

1148
00:51:44,530 --> 00:51:42,350
animals yeah you know even if you're

1149
00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:44,540
part of the family like they can banish

1150
00:51:48,460 --> 00:51:46,310
you because they feel threatened by you

1151
00:51:50,530 --> 00:51:48,470
even if it's like your kid it's that's

1152
00:51:52,750 --> 00:51:50,540
just the that's the animal way yeah and

1153
00:51:53,860 --> 00:51:52,760
why wouldn't they go we'll screw it I

1154
00:51:55,810 --> 00:51:53,870
mean I'm just gonna

1155
00:51:58,450 --> 00:51:55,820
I don't need your rules I'm not part of

1156
00:52:00,970 --> 00:51:58,460
the unit anyway so there's a dog here

1157
00:52:02,290 --> 00:52:00,980
you know a person and a little sleeping

1158
00:52:09,580 --> 00:52:02,300
bag probably looks like a nice little

1159
00:52:13,090 --> 00:52:09,590
burrito oh it's funny it's how you said

1160
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:13,100
I mean the word burrito is just like it

1161
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:14,090
because when you think better you're

1162
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:16,730
like oh a little a little a little Jimmy

1163
00:52:23,350 --> 00:52:20,000
get right there warm this thing up over

1164
00:52:26,170 --> 00:52:23,360
the fire melty cheese no wait that's not

1165
00:52:28,540 --> 00:52:26,180
cheese nevermind so yeah I mean this is

1166
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:28,550
another story that you're like no I

1167
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:31,520
don't when I'm a lot of times you've had

1168
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:33,440
it two people will tell you these

1169
00:52:41,050 --> 00:52:36,640
stories and they get emotional and then

1170
00:52:43,660 --> 00:52:41,060
even though I love air in these stories

1171
00:52:46,570 --> 00:52:43,670
you know I want to take the account down

1172
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:46,580
and and get it out there and share to

1173
00:52:52,450 --> 00:52:49,610
everybody and it makes for fantastic

1174
00:52:54,310 --> 00:52:52,460
content when somebody gets really upset

1175
00:52:57,220 --> 00:52:54,320
and you can hear it in their voice and

1176
00:53:00,850 --> 00:52:57,230
they get emotional I feel so bad I I

1177
00:53:03,580 --> 00:53:00,860
just I the the pang and guilt just runs

1178
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:03,590
through me and I know you've had that

1179
00:53:12,310 --> 00:53:07,610
too I've heard them but these are again

1180
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:12,320
life-changing events um Derek and both

1181
00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:14,450
Eric and Chris in these stories are

1182
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:15,740
they're still going out which is

1183
00:53:23,980 --> 00:53:17,690
fantastic I'm in touch with both of them

1184
00:53:25,660 --> 00:53:23,990
and it didn't completely worn them off

1185
00:53:27,610 --> 00:53:25,670
of the woods which is great because they

1186
00:53:29,050 --> 00:53:27,620
live in very wooded areas they're like

1187
00:53:31,330 --> 00:53:29,060
they're not like my next-door neighbor

1188
00:53:33,250 --> 00:53:31,340
were the like yeah unless the yucca man

1189
00:53:37,710 --> 00:53:33,260
comes out from Joshua Tree National

1190
00:53:40,330 --> 00:53:37,720
Forest yeah no I get yeah

1191
00:53:41,170 --> 00:53:40,340
kudos to these guys they are braver man

1192
00:53:43,180 --> 00:53:41,180
than I am

1193
00:53:45,370 --> 00:53:43,190
yeah brave of them meets you because

1194
00:53:50,050 --> 00:53:45,380
when I'm talking to these guys and

1195
00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:50,060
hearing the story I'm like hell no and I

1196
00:53:54,130 --> 00:53:51,830
love hearing stories like this we all do

1197
00:53:56,140 --> 00:53:54,140
but when you actually take the time to

1198
00:53:59,110 --> 00:53:56,150
put yourself there you're like oh [\h__\h]

1199
00:54:01,450 --> 00:53:59,120
now no that's it's really messed up

1200
00:54:03,630 --> 00:54:01,460
that's why I stick to UFOs oh yeah

1201
00:54:06,850 --> 00:54:03,640
because that's so much brighter I mean I

1202
00:54:09,610 --> 00:54:06,860
have been heard of many aliens eating

1203
00:54:11,980 --> 00:54:09,620
humans but I'm asked I'm sure it's

1204
00:54:12,850 --> 00:54:11,990
happened it's it's had to happen hey

1205
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,860
Riley

1206
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:14,720
what's the when's the last time we had a

1207
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:17,210
good and I'm not poking fun at all that

1208
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:20,090
was my joke I'm done with the joke I'm

1209
00:54:22,540 --> 00:54:21,770
just trying I'm just a good file I like

1210
00:54:26,010 --> 00:54:22,550
to make people laugh

1211
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,020
but honestly when's the last time we had

1212
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:28,640
the you know like the whitley strieber

1213
00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:30,730
like the glass

1214
00:54:36,270 --> 00:54:32,950
you know you go up to the ship and they

1215
00:54:39,660 --> 00:54:36,280
do these I mean truly effing horrible

1216
00:54:42,570 --> 00:54:39,670
things to you and it's either the one

1217
00:54:45,810 --> 00:54:42,580
time like you know Travis or you get the

1218
00:54:48,540 --> 00:54:45,820
recurring like Whitley where it says all

1219
00:54:50,970 --> 00:54:48,550
kinds of different activity going on

1220
00:54:54,690 --> 00:54:50,980
over time I mean when's the last time we

1221
00:54:57,900 --> 00:54:54,700
had anything like that come out it's

1222
00:54:59,790 --> 00:54:57,910
it's been a while I mean I mean even the

1223
00:55:04,110 --> 00:54:59,800
abduction cases I covered in my book

1224
00:55:07,020 --> 00:55:04,120
were firm like 10 20 years ago it's

1225
00:55:09,390 --> 00:55:07,030
weird it's almost like it's no longer a

1226
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:09,400
thing and if anyone out there is an

1227
00:55:13,290 --> 00:55:11,410
experiencer and these things are

1228
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:13,300
happening to you I do apologize if

1229
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:15,970
that's offensive at all but I personally

1230
00:55:23,010 --> 00:55:20,110
haven't had any abduction cases come

1231
00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:23,020
across my desk why is that I don't know

1232
00:55:29,490 --> 00:55:26,440
why it really makes me wonder you know

1233
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:29,500
like abductions were big around when

1234
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:31,090
Whitley Schreiber story come out was

1235
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:34,570
this just like people now feeling

1236
00:55:39,780 --> 00:55:36,880
compelled to come forward or was it like

1237
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:39,790
a weird cultural phenomenon of the time

1238
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:42,370
that right it was in the collective

1239
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:44,410
consciousness or the zeitgeist and now

1240
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:47,530
like people are either fabricating

1241
00:55:53,010 --> 00:55:49,690
stories building upon stuff like Whitley

1242
00:55:56,010 --> 00:55:53,020
Schreiber Travis Walton or is it really

1243
00:55:57,780 --> 00:55:56,020
happening i I don't know it's but yet

1244
00:56:00,900 --> 00:55:57,790
yeah that's just such a good question

1245
00:56:03,090 --> 00:56:00,910
and it's it's not asked a lot is why

1246
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:03,100
does it seem that like abductions aren't

1247
00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:05,530
happening anymore have they gotten what

1248
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:08,320
they needed from us or or right I don't

1249
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:10,000
know I don't know I don't know how to

1250
00:56:13,530 --> 00:56:11,680
answer that that's so interesting

1251
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:13,540
because it could be just as simple as

1252
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:15,130
that because if they're that advanced

1253
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:17,770
and of course that's another argument in

1254
00:56:21,090 --> 00:56:19,450
and of itself if they're that advanced

1255
00:56:22,740 --> 00:56:21,100
why do they have to keep coming down and

1256
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:22,750
taking that many samples but if it was

1257
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:24,610
some kind of a quote-unquote DNA test

1258
00:56:30,090 --> 00:56:27,520
over X many years and generations and

1259
00:56:32,910 --> 00:56:30,100
bloodlines yeah maybe they're done with

1260
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:32,920
it but do you think that the fact that

1261
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:37,290
it's so big now has actually hurt people

1262
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:39,730
coming out and talking about it to the

1263
00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:41,710
point where they're like well I mean

1264
00:56:44,490 --> 00:56:43,240
they're just gonna say I've read

1265
00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:44,500
Whitley's book or I'm

1266
00:56:48,510 --> 00:56:46,390
just trying to be a guest on somewhere

1267
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:48,520
in the skies or into the fray and it's

1268
00:56:54,210 --> 00:56:51,010
gotten too big too big for its britches

1269
00:56:55,710 --> 00:56:54,220
I think so I think it's a little of a

1270
00:56:58,140 --> 00:56:55,720
lot of different I think there's so many

1271
00:57:00,180 --> 00:56:58,150
variables I think people may now think

1272
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:00,190
like no one's gonna believe me like

1273
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:03,610
every story's been told or they don't

1274
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:06,010
want to talk about it because they just

1275
00:57:12,330 --> 00:57:09,040
want to ignore that it ever happened

1276
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:12,340
or again I'm gonna say it maybe we've

1277
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:16,000
just moved on in the in the narrative of

1278
00:57:22,260 --> 00:57:19,090
UFOs and what they represent and maybe

1279
00:57:23,850 --> 00:57:22,270
people are now realizing oh this was a

1280
00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:23,860
product of its time

1281
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:25,990
you know the contactee movement of the

1282
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:28,810
60s and 70s was huge you know meeting

1283
00:57:33,570 --> 00:57:30,970
the space brothers and being told like

1284
00:57:36,450 --> 00:57:33,580
your planets going to [\h__\h] like fix that

1285
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:36,460
[\h__\h] or and then 80s and 90s you had

1286
00:57:42,410 --> 00:57:39,310
these creepy little grey dudes putting

1287
00:57:46,020 --> 00:57:42,420
[\h__\h] up your butt or what-have-you

1288
00:57:48,030 --> 00:57:46,030
again I know we joke no yeah it's gonna

1289
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:48,040
keep it a little bit light absolutely

1290
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:50,650
you do oh and you know conducting very

1291
00:57:57,260 --> 00:57:53,710
intrusive and evasive experiments on

1292
00:58:00,180 --> 00:57:57,270
people and now like we've kind of just

1293
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:00,190
moved on I don't know what that says

1294
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:03,850
about our society or us as humans but I

1295
00:58:11,610 --> 00:58:06,970
feel like were we're in a new we're in a

1296
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:11,620
new age of the UFO topic and I'm gonna

1297
00:58:18,180 --> 00:58:14,610
be honest I see it veering away from the

1298
00:58:20,940 --> 00:58:18,190
creatures the reptilians the grey is the

1299
00:58:22,770 --> 00:58:20,950
the tall Nordics I I feel like we're

1300
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:22,780
moving away from these very sensational

1301
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:25,570
stories and that's not to say they did

1302
00:58:32,670 --> 00:58:28,480
not happen and we're we're putting our

1303
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:32,680
focus more on oh like we got some legit

1304
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:34,690
like Navy people coming forward and

1305
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:36,310
saying they saw stuff let's focus on

1306
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:38,650
that right now because it is such a

1307
00:58:45,210 --> 00:58:41,290
complex and messy topic to begin with

1308
00:58:46,650 --> 00:58:45,220
the UFOs that we really we really have

1309
00:58:49,770 --> 00:58:46,660
tunnel vision sometimes and I think

1310
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:49,780
right now in 2020 we are we are so

1311
00:58:55,380 --> 00:58:52,930
entrenched in these Navy sightings that

1312
00:58:58,050 --> 00:58:55,390
that's kind of where everything is

1313
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:58,060
leading and everything all the

1314
00:59:00,450 --> 00:58:58,570
conversing

1315
00:59:04,020 --> 00:59:00,460
having to do with UFOs are focusing on

1316
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:04,030
that but again it doesn't stop the

1317
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:06,370
phenomenon from happening to people so

1318
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:08,530
maybe they're just not coming forward I

1319
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:10,240
can tell you right now I have not heard

1320
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,450
of a recent abduction case in a really

1321
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:16,000
long time the only one I can really

1322
00:59:21,180 --> 00:59:17,770
think of and I just thought about this

1323
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:21,190
is a young man named D Prasad who is a

1324
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:23,770
quantum physicist one of the most

1325
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:25,570
brilliant people I've ever talked to on

1326
00:59:29,970 --> 00:59:27,970
my show and within the last month or so

1327
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:29,980
he has come forward and said that he has

1328
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:33,040
had a very close encounter experience

1329
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:36,250
with something he can't explain and I

1330
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:39,970
mean that's pretty astounding

1331
00:59:44,850 --> 00:59:42,850
that someone of his stature and with his

1332
00:59:47,250 --> 00:59:44,860
reputation would come forward with this

1333
00:59:49,230 --> 00:59:47,260
so that says something maybe it's still

1334
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:49,240
going on I don't know she and I honestly

1335
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:51,730
don't know I think I just started to

1336
00:59:57,810 --> 00:59:54,190
follow him because I wanted to to learn

1337
00:59:59,970 --> 00:59:57,820
more about him but I mean and just to

1338
01:00:02,240 --> 00:59:59,980
say guys I mean and that is kind of sad

1339
01:00:04,740 --> 01:00:02,250
to me that it is moving out of that

1340
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:04,750
because I feel like that's a huge part

1341
01:00:10,110 --> 01:00:08,050
of it is just hey you're big on this too

1342
01:00:12,330 --> 01:00:10,120
I mean that's your whole thing it's the

1343
01:00:14,070 --> 01:00:12,340
human side of it what did the person

1344
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:14,080
experience how did it change their lives

1345
01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:16,240
they don't sleep anymore it totally

1346
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:18,430
effed them up if you're out there and

1347
01:00:22,830 --> 01:00:20,770
you are experiencing something like that

1348
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:22,840
I'm sure that Ryan has put this call out

1349
01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:24,880
so many times but there are a lot of

1350
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:26,470
people out there that will not laugh at

1351
01:00:33,690 --> 01:00:31,930
you absolutely like it we we live and

1352
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:33,700
breathe this stuff so yeah and we crack

1353
01:00:38,850 --> 01:00:35,890
jokes but at the end of the day like we

1354
01:00:43,710 --> 01:00:38,860
would never ever do that to someone who

1355
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:43,720
came oh god no and most of my guests you

1356
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:45,730
know whether it's prior to the show or

1357
01:00:49,740 --> 01:00:48,130
after the show you know you always try

1358
01:00:52,890 --> 01:00:49,750
to keep it light and actually my very

1359
01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:52,900
last guest she was anonymous not gonna

1360
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:54,910
reveal her name but she had a sighting

1361
01:01:01,410 --> 01:00:57,730
of strange creature twice within an hour

1362
01:01:05,820 --> 01:01:01,420
on a desolate Road on an early morning

1363
01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:05,830
Drive in Iowa and and she did she broke

1364
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:08,320
down and she cried while she was telling

1365
01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:11,890
the story and when that happens

1366
01:01:16,620 --> 01:01:13,780
I know that because I've been there I

1367
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,630
know that it's a good thing for them but

1368
01:01:20,460 --> 01:01:18,160
at the same time of course like I said

1369
01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:20,470
before it's it's a real blow to me

1370
01:01:26,070 --> 01:01:23,470
because I I feel like I'm making her

1371
01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:26,080
dredge set up and I feel bad for doing

1372
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:29,830
that most of the time people tell me and

1373
01:01:34,290 --> 01:01:31,570
I know that you've probably had this to

1374
01:01:36,210 --> 01:01:34,300
Ryan as they go that was cathartic thank

1375
01:01:38,220 --> 01:01:36,220
you for listening to me

1376
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:38,230
I haven't told that very many times

1377
01:01:44,210 --> 01:01:40,720
sometimes they've not told it to almost

1378
01:01:47,850 --> 01:01:44,220
anyone like I said in the beginning but

1379
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:47,860
anyway the point is if you guys are out

1380
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:50,290
there with these stories and that's what

1381
01:01:54,990 --> 01:01:51,970
yes Ryan cuz I really wanted to know I

1382
01:01:58,290 --> 01:01:55,000
haven't I'm not the biggest UFO person I

1383
01:02:01,410 --> 01:01:58,300
do have a pretty good understanding of

1384
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:01,420
that stuff and I do follow it and I need

1385
01:02:06,210 --> 01:02:03,970
to do more on my show and of course we

1386
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:06,220
should briefly mention the on on the

1387
01:02:12,030 --> 01:02:09,490
trail UFOs by small monsters that we've

1388
01:02:15,630 --> 01:02:12,040
we've both been working on but I mean

1389
01:02:17,550 --> 01:02:15,640
this stuff is very important to us and a

1390
01:02:21,090 --> 01:02:17,560
lot of other people out there so if you

1391
01:02:24,540 --> 01:02:21,100
have an experience call Ryan I mean get

1392
01:02:27,540 --> 01:02:24,550
in touch with him and these are the most

1393
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:27,550
important stories really of humankind

1394
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:29,050
because if this is really going on

1395
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:31,330
what's more important than that honest

1396
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:34,290
to god what is more important than

1397
01:02:39,930 --> 01:02:37,510
whatever's out there trying to contact

1398
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:39,940
us good or bad I mean unfortunately

1399
01:02:45,390 --> 01:02:42,490
there's a lot of damn bad out there and

1400
01:02:46,850 --> 01:02:45,400
horrible stories as you mentioned but

1401
01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:46,860
what's more important than that

1402
01:02:51,570 --> 01:02:48,880
absolutely I always tell people there's

1403
01:02:53,730 --> 01:02:51,580
two questions in life where do we go

1404
01:02:55,740 --> 01:02:53,740
when we die and are we alone in the

1405
01:02:57,900 --> 01:02:55,750
universe and while I don't think any of

1406
01:02:59,670 --> 01:02:57,910
us will truly know the answer to the

1407
01:03:02,520 --> 01:02:59,680
first question until it happens to us

1408
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:02,530
the second question I think we are

1409
01:03:07,530 --> 01:03:05,410
inching ever so closer to figuring that

1410
01:03:12,570 --> 01:03:07,540
out whether we'll ever know the true

1411
01:03:14,340 --> 01:03:12,580
honest 100% truth about it maybe not but

1412
01:03:17,220 --> 01:03:14,350
I think within our lifetime we are

1413
01:03:20,670 --> 01:03:17,230
getting closer to something very

1414
01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:20,680
profound and important and it's exciting

1415
01:03:24,180 --> 01:03:22,270
it's exciting to think it's on the

1416
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:24,190
horizon I might be speaking out of turn

1417
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:25,090
and I will

1418
01:03:30,210 --> 01:03:27,520
and never know the truth about all this

1419
01:03:32,730 --> 01:03:30,220
like many UFO researchers before me but

1420
01:03:34,530 --> 01:03:32,740
hey that's the that's the time you live

1421
01:03:36,750 --> 01:03:34,540
in that's the time you were given and

1422
01:03:39,030 --> 01:03:36,760
just do the most with that time you have

1423
01:03:41,550 --> 01:03:39,040
right yeah I'm gonna keep digging for

1424
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:41,560
answers and I guess moving on a little

1425
01:03:49,380 --> 01:03:45,970
shin here to your other project which

1426
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:49,390
you've brought up on the trail of UFOs

1427
01:03:54,930 --> 01:03:52,330
so yes you after years and years of

1428
01:03:56,490 --> 01:03:54,940
working with you remotely I was finally

1429
01:03:58,260 --> 01:03:56,500
able to meet you in person

1430
01:04:01,530 --> 01:03:58,270
in my neck of the woods New York City

1431
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:01,540
and this was amazing I can't believe it

1432
01:04:06,420 --> 01:04:03,280
took us this long to make it happen but

1433
01:04:08,490 --> 01:04:06,430
it did and I need to hear about this

1434
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:08,500
you're working with small town monsters

1435
01:04:12,420 --> 01:04:10,390
a lot of people out there know about

1436
01:04:14,370 --> 01:04:12,430
Seth Breedlove and his work he's been on

1437
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:14,380
the show a couple times but how did this

1438
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:15,970
all come about and what is this new

1439
01:04:21,060 --> 01:04:18,370
project you're working on with them yeah

1440
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:21,070
so this iteration came after of course

1441
01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:23,770
on the trail Bigfoot which is of course

1442
01:04:29,370 --> 01:04:27,160
out now on Amazon Prime or you can go to

1443
01:04:32,730 --> 01:04:29,380
small town monster's calm in and see all

1444
01:04:34,740 --> 01:04:32,740
of his amazing worse of course Mothman

1445
01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:34,750
you know you've got terror in the skies

1446
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:38,310
with the flying you know pterodactyls

1447
01:04:43,230 --> 01:04:41,200
humanoids whatever the hell they are

1448
01:04:45,180 --> 01:04:43,240
he's got bail which coming out pretty

1449
01:04:47,630 --> 01:04:45,190
soon which is amazing I mean they are

1450
01:04:51,630 --> 01:04:47,640
non-stop Adrienne and Seth Breedlove

1451
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:51,640
small-town monsters so we wanted to

1452
01:04:57,390 --> 01:04:54,490
continue the on the trail of series and

1453
01:05:02,480 --> 01:04:57,400
I was lucky enough to be asked to host

1454
01:05:05,310 --> 01:05:02,490
that to where I get to be a big part of

1455
01:05:08,370 --> 01:05:05,320
tracking whatever we can down and

1456
01:05:10,860 --> 01:05:08,380
interviewing the biggest names you

1457
01:05:14,460 --> 01:05:10,870
included thankfully while we were in New

1458
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:14,470
York on the subject of UFOs and really

1459
01:05:19,860 --> 01:05:17,410
taking it back to something that we

1460
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:19,870
talked about with you know when it comes

1461
01:05:24,210 --> 01:05:22,090
to any sighting of anything is taking it

1462
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:24,220
back to the people and taking them back

1463
01:05:30,690 --> 01:05:27,730
to how it affected them and not always

1464
01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:30,700
about I mean of course the size of a

1465
01:05:36,020 --> 01:05:33,940
creature or the way that a craft acted

1466
01:05:38,850 --> 01:05:36,030
or the maneuvers that did is so

1467
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:38,860
incredible but we wanted to talk to you

1468
01:05:44,670 --> 01:05:41,530
the people and that is something that

1469
01:05:46,830 --> 01:05:44,680
you will hear especially in maybe an

1470
01:05:50,010 --> 01:05:46,840
interview with Greg Bishop that may or

1471
01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:50,020
may not be on there no it will be but

1472
01:05:56,850 --> 01:05:53,230
yeah we we were in New York and finally

1473
01:06:00,180 --> 01:05:56,860
got to run into you and then we went

1474
01:06:04,650 --> 01:06:00,190
down to I mean the center of it all in

1475
01:06:07,410 --> 01:06:04,660
New York so Times Square baby in the

1476
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,420
world and that of course it ended up in

1477
01:06:13,650 --> 01:06:09,520
a wonderful trailer that Seth cut for us

1478
01:06:16,110 --> 01:06:13,660
so that was amazing but yeah I mean what

1479
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:16,120
do you think about you know shows like

1480
01:06:22,740 --> 01:06:19,450
that I mean do you do you feel like

1481
01:06:24,660 --> 01:06:22,750
something like that is is going to reach

1482
01:06:27,660 --> 01:06:24,670
people it's going to make a difference

1483
01:06:30,900 --> 01:06:27,670
at all well what I really appreciate I

1484
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:30,910
was able to see some early cuts of the

1485
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:32,650
first couple episodes of the show and

1486
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:35,290
and the trailer as well and you said

1487
01:06:40,350 --> 01:06:38,260
something very important in the trailer

1488
01:06:43,980 --> 01:06:40,360
and that's that the UFO topic has become

1489
01:06:46,860 --> 01:06:43,990
very political eyes in the last few

1490
01:06:49,830 --> 01:06:46,870
years I would say it's all about the

1491
01:06:51,930 --> 01:06:49,840
military and UFOs and the government and

1492
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:51,940
getting congressional hearings and this

1493
01:06:56,430 --> 01:06:54,370
stuff is awesome don't get me wrong but

1494
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:56,440
I think what you guys are doing that's

1495
01:06:59,970 --> 01:06:57,760
much different is bringing it back down

1496
01:07:01,740 --> 01:06:59,980
to earth talking to the people having

1497
01:07:04,530 --> 01:07:01,750
the experiences in talking to the

1498
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:04,540
researchers who've put in decades of

1499
01:07:11,130 --> 01:07:07,930
work to try to unravel these mysteries

1500
01:07:14,190 --> 01:07:11,140
so I think it's not only essential what

1501
01:07:16,410 --> 01:07:14,200
you guys are doing I think it is a side

1502
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:16,420
of the UFO topic that doesn't get

1503
01:07:20,850 --> 01:07:18,310
discussed often and that's the

1504
01:07:24,690 --> 01:07:20,860
experiencers in the people researching

1505
01:07:27,690 --> 01:07:24,700
it so I was so honored to have been

1506
01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:27,700
invited to be a part of it and to see a

1507
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:30,070
lot of other familiar faces and new

1508
01:07:33,390 --> 01:07:31,690
faces there were some people I'd never

1509
01:07:35,370 --> 01:07:33,400
heard of that you guys interviewed and

1510
01:07:37,710 --> 01:07:35,380
again it's just opening up that

1511
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:37,720
community open up the possibilities of

1512
01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:40,570
other people working together and trying

1513
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:42,550
to find answers together instead of just

1514
01:07:48,210 --> 01:07:45,910
you know being on our own trying to

1515
01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:48,220
figure all this stuff out lately let's

1516
01:07:52,740 --> 01:07:50,920
talk let's have a conversation and let's

1517
01:07:54,420 --> 01:07:52,750
let's ask some questions

1518
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:54,430
yeah I think it's I think it's an

1519
01:07:58,290 --> 01:07:56,530
amazing project and I'm not just saying

1520
01:08:00,900 --> 01:07:58,300
that because I'm in it or that you guys

1521
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:00,910
are doing it I've been waiting for South

1522
01:08:06,780 --> 01:08:03,609
Korea to tackle the UFO topic with his

1523
01:08:08,339 --> 01:08:06,790
cinematic eye and I'm so blown away by

1524
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:08,349
what I've seen already so I can't wait

1525
01:08:12,330 --> 01:08:09,910
for people to see it yeah I'm not gonna

1526
01:08:17,809 --> 01:08:12,340
lie it's some pretty sexy stuff there's

1527
01:08:20,820 --> 01:08:17,819
some wonderful shots and editing I mean

1528
01:08:24,059 --> 01:08:20,830
yeah well and not only the UFO topic

1529
01:08:26,610 --> 01:08:24,069
like it shows America in like such a

1530
01:08:29,099 --> 01:08:26,620
beautiful light and how diverse our

1531
01:08:31,410 --> 01:08:29,109
country is in terms of people and just

1532
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:31,420
our environments I mean within weeks you

1533
01:08:35,849 --> 01:08:33,130
guys were in New York City and then you

1534
01:08:38,430 --> 01:08:35,859
were like across the country in the the

1535
01:08:40,260 --> 01:08:38,440
hills of California or you know the

1536
01:08:42,930 --> 01:08:40,270
Berkshires in Massachusetts or New

1537
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:42,940
Hampshire yes like it's so amazing to

1538
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:45,250
see these locations and then to hear

1539
01:08:50,519 --> 01:08:47,410
these incredible UFO stories that have

1540
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:50,529
happened there it's awesome we killed a

1541
01:08:57,690 --> 01:08:54,850
beautiful Ford Expedition max on the way

1542
01:09:00,209 --> 01:08:57,700
to New Hampshire and then we had to

1543
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:00,219
transfer to of a Chevy Suburban which we

1544
01:09:05,010 --> 01:09:03,520
were all very upset about sorry chevy

1545
01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:05,020
suburban owners but if you could get

1546
01:09:11,190 --> 01:09:08,350
into a Ford Expedition max which if you

1547
01:09:14,370 --> 01:09:11,200
guys want to you know sponsor any of us

1548
01:09:15,870 --> 01:09:14,380
that would be fantastic by the way know

1549
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:15,880
when we killed that car and we had to

1550
01:09:20,070 --> 01:09:18,130
transfer it we were all literally crying

1551
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:20,080
as we were taking our stuff out of there

1552
01:09:25,769 --> 01:09:22,810
not sure what happened there but that

1553
01:09:29,459 --> 01:09:25,779
was a lovely vehicle so you know the the

1554
01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:29,469
fixer repair daily I guess kind of lived

1555
01:09:37,860 --> 01:09:34,960
up to its name just kidding yeah but

1556
01:09:41,610 --> 01:09:37,870
with that that trip where we saw you

1557
01:09:43,709 --> 01:09:41,620
where's where we I mean we tackled a lot

1558
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:43,719
of miles and we talked to a lot of

1559
01:09:48,930 --> 01:09:47,049
people which was absolutely fantastic I

1560
01:09:50,610 --> 01:09:48,940
mean I got to meet you and Micah Hanks

1561
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:50,620
in the same trip so it was wonderful

1562
01:09:54,750 --> 01:09:51,850
that's crazy

1563
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:54,760
and I I do have to mention I brought you

1564
01:10:02,970 --> 01:09:57,370
guys to a pizza joint in Manhattan and

1565
01:10:06,380 --> 01:10:02,980
we have the assessed Italian person in

1566
01:10:07,790 --> 01:10:06,390
the whole city I'm so happy that you got

1567
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:07,800
got to experience the truth it was

1568
01:10:11,780 --> 01:10:09,570
authentic as hell like if you didn't

1569
01:10:13,790 --> 01:10:11,790
know your [\h__\h] and you you better know

1570
01:10:15,380 --> 01:10:13,800
what you want to order right the second

1571
01:10:17,450 --> 01:10:15,390
that she comes over in fact you better

1572
01:10:19,340 --> 01:10:17,460
know it twenty minutes before she comes

1573
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:19,350
over because if you're not ready

1574
01:10:24,650 --> 01:10:22,080
she will whip out a machete and say god

1575
01:10:27,230 --> 01:10:24,660
oh my god yeah and god forbid it was

1576
01:10:29,870 --> 01:10:27,240
like ask a question out of turn there's

1577
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:29,880
no you want you want this you want this

1578
01:10:36,170 --> 01:10:32,490
oh you want a fork you stick your face

1579
01:10:38,690 --> 01:10:36,180
in that pizza in now I don't know I

1580
01:10:41,330 --> 01:10:38,700
think she she had it for Seth I think

1581
01:10:44,270 --> 01:10:41,340
she she had stars in her eyes when she

1582
01:10:46,940 --> 01:10:44,280
she laid eyes on him I think he saved us

1583
01:10:48,380 --> 01:10:46,950
actually because I like once he started

1584
01:10:50,420 --> 01:10:48,390
to talk to her I don't know what it was

1585
01:10:52,250 --> 01:10:50,430
she kind of toned down a little bit

1586
01:10:53,900 --> 01:10:52,260
because you and I were having our

1587
01:10:56,540 --> 01:10:53,910
conversation at the other end of the

1588
01:10:59,090 --> 01:10:56,550
table and what was she doing to the

1589
01:11:00,920 --> 01:10:59,100
table behind us like I thought you might

1590
01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:00,930
actually kick them out of the restaurant

1591
01:11:07,070 --> 01:11:03,840
because they were pissing her off she

1592
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:07,080
was I'm going and shaming oh my good I

1593
01:11:10,580 --> 01:11:08,490
was like is she about to drop like some

1594
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:10,590
f-bombs and stuff right now I love her

1595
01:11:17,180 --> 01:11:15,120
she was he was authentic she she she

1596
01:11:20,260 --> 01:11:17,190
gave you the true New York experience so

1597
01:11:23,630 --> 01:11:20,270
I'm glad you it's good to see that but I

1598
01:11:25,460 --> 01:11:23,640
do want to know like on your travels

1599
01:11:27,650 --> 01:11:25,470
with the show without like giving away

1600
01:11:29,630 --> 01:11:27,660
any like specifics what really stuck out

1601
01:11:32,570 --> 01:11:29,640
to you what really sort of left an

1602
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:32,580
impression stepping into the UFO world

1603
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:36,690
as it were honestly and this may sound

1604
01:11:42,530 --> 01:11:40,080
really like a cop-out answer but and

1605
01:11:46,450 --> 01:11:42,540
it's no different than your show my show

1606
01:11:50,570 --> 01:11:46,460
a TV show a podcast or whatever a book

1607
01:11:54,070 --> 01:11:50,580
everybody's the same everybody if you

1608
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:54,080
see something that changes your life and

1609
01:12:00,740 --> 01:11:57,600
it the the details may be different but

1610
01:12:01,970 --> 01:12:00,750
for the most part we as people process

1611
01:12:05,450 --> 01:12:01,980
things a certain way

1612
01:12:09,050 --> 01:12:05,460
and you know in a roundabout way not in

1613
01:12:13,220 --> 01:12:09,060
every case but the culmination is the

1614
01:12:15,670 --> 01:12:13,230
same and it's so nice to be able to sit

1615
01:12:18,710 --> 01:12:15,680
with so many different people from

1616
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:18,720
directors to researchers to just

1617
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:19,920
straight experiencers

1618
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:21,600
and I don't mean just because that's

1619
01:12:27,229 --> 01:12:24,570
that's our bread butter without you guys

1620
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:27,239
the experiencers we would have nothing

1621
01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:28,800
you know if you guys didn't come forward

1622
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:30,390
and tell these stories we wouldn't have

1623
01:12:36,669 --> 01:12:32,310
the data that we have which is so

1624
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:36,679
important in talking to all these people

1625
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:41,610
that's that's it that's the whole thing

1626
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:44,640
we don't have an alien you know in a in

1627
01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:47,250
a acrylic cage waving at us like in

1628
01:12:53,540 --> 01:12:49,500
Independence Day you know we don't have

1629
01:12:59,120 --> 01:12:53,550
that we don't have a proof of telepathic

1630
01:13:02,780 --> 01:12:59,130
communication or a visit from an actual

1631
01:13:07,450 --> 01:13:02,790
craft of I mean like a perfect video of

1632
01:13:09,740 --> 01:13:07,460
such a thing but we do have is people's

1633
01:13:12,290 --> 01:13:09,750
interpretations of it what it has done

1634
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:12,300
to them what it has done to sometimes

1635
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:13,440
even their children

1636
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:16,800
heaven forbid because I'd be like I will

1637
01:13:20,060 --> 01:13:18,810
cut a gray if you mess with my kid you

1638
01:13:23,390 --> 01:13:20,070
know that kind of a thing

1639
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:23,400
it's did every day of these people's

1640
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:26,880
lives is what is so important and I

1641
01:13:32,570 --> 01:13:30,210
think for me and again that's something

1642
01:13:34,669 --> 01:13:32,580
that's come up in the interviews that we

1643
01:13:36,110 --> 01:13:34,679
did for on the trillion

1644
01:13:38,140 --> 01:13:36,120
man you got to take it back to the

1645
01:13:41,900 --> 01:13:38,150
people and what it's done to them and

1646
01:13:44,150 --> 01:13:41,910
and that's it it's cool to talk about

1647
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:44,160
the craft how fast to go oh great it

1648
01:13:48,020 --> 01:13:46,290
went at a 90-degree angle into the ocean

1649
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:48,030
oh we have underground bases there's a

1650
01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:51,290
whole nother tangent but that's that's

1651
01:13:56,209 --> 01:13:54,360
already there what's important is what

1652
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:56,219
it does to the people yeah I couldn't

1653
01:14:00,200 --> 01:13:57,840
agree with you more I think more and

1654
01:14:03,890 --> 01:14:00,210
more people are realizing like the more

1655
01:14:05,870 --> 01:14:03,900
we talk about it and share our stories

1656
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:05,880
the closer we're gonna get to answers

1657
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:08,010
instead of you know relying on science

1658
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:10,800
to do it for us of course that's a huge

1659
01:14:15,860 --> 01:14:13,290
huge part of all this don't get me yeah

1660
01:14:19,490 --> 01:14:15,870
anyone out there in the scientific field

1661
01:14:21,470 --> 01:14:19,500
or community like essential to what

1662
01:14:21,860 --> 01:14:21,480
we're doing but we got all just work

1663
01:14:24,169 --> 01:14:21,870
together

1664
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:24,179
like look okay let's take that Navy

1665
01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:26,250
video the tic-tac video for instance

1666
01:14:32,150 --> 01:14:29,310
that whatever eight second video it's

1667
01:14:32,810 --> 01:14:32,160
cool and like it's compelling but we

1668
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:32,820
have no

1669
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:36,930
a context for it but the pilot came

1670
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:39,360
forward and then the radar operator and

1671
01:14:43,310 --> 01:14:41,520
then the guy and the other [\h__\h] and when

1672
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:43,320
we started hearing their stories it's

1673
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:44,970
now painting the picture of what we're

1674
01:14:50,030 --> 01:14:47,040
seeing in the video and then and the

1675
01:14:52,670 --> 01:14:50,040
impact of it oh my god yeah it's all

1676
01:14:55,370 --> 01:14:52,680
about the people and I've always said

1677
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,380
that so I'm so happy that that's kind of

1678
01:15:00,740 --> 01:14:57,600
what you guys were focusing on and I

1679
01:15:02,540 --> 01:15:00,750
think where the UFO topic is going it's

1680
01:15:06,070 --> 01:15:02,550
heading in a direction that's more about

1681
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:06,080
us than the UFOs or aliens or whatever

1682
01:15:11,330 --> 01:15:09,690
intelligence is behind these UFOs it's

1683
01:15:13,310 --> 01:15:11,340
more about us and I think that's kind of

1684
01:15:15,890 --> 01:15:13,320
what this topic has always been it's us

1685
01:15:18,500 --> 01:15:15,900
looking at that mirror looking back at

1686
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:18,510
us and says more about us than it ever

1687
01:15:25,190 --> 01:15:22,530
could them so I'm so stoked to see the

1688
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:25,200
rest of the show and and what it has to

1689
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:28,410
has to say to us but um have your

1690
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:30,960
opinions or thoughts changed at all shed

1691
01:15:36,650 --> 01:15:34,560
after this journey on the UFO topic no I

1692
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:36,660
don't think so I I think it's it's

1693
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:44,810
there are and I already knew this but

1694
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:46,650
there are so many different types of

1695
01:15:52,580 --> 01:15:50,010
people that you think would be kind of

1696
01:15:58,190 --> 01:15:52,590
quiet and demure and being this kind of

1697
01:16:00,220 --> 01:15:58,200
thing but you say the word UFO and oh my

1698
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:00,230
goodness their eyes light up and they

1699
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:03,410
become a completely different person

1700
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:06,810
switches flip oh my god

1701
01:16:15,710 --> 01:16:10,250
and it it's a beautiful thing to see and

1702
01:16:18,020 --> 01:16:15,720
being with Seth and the guys I've gotten

1703
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:18,030
to see that a number of times and people

1704
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:20,130
you know it's not the easiest thing to

1705
01:16:24,590 --> 01:16:22,170
be on camera or they'd even be on the

1706
01:16:27,260 --> 01:16:24,600
podcast take that away put a camera in

1707
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:27,270
your face and then you know you put a

1708
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:29,760
lapel mic on you and go alright let's

1709
01:16:37,370 --> 01:16:33,440
hear your story it is difficult it is so

1710
01:16:41,450 --> 01:16:37,380
terrifying and at first it's very hard

1711
01:16:44,030 --> 01:16:41,460
for people but you could see them kind

1712
01:16:46,669 --> 01:16:44,040
of melt into their story and I think

1713
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:46,679
it's once they

1714
01:16:52,459 --> 01:16:49,679
got to finally really get into the

1715
01:16:55,610 --> 01:16:52,469
minutiae of the details and everything

1716
01:16:57,530 --> 01:16:55,620
of their story that they they release

1717
01:17:01,130 --> 01:16:57,540
the tension and they're finally in that

1718
01:17:02,959 --> 01:17:01,140
moment again because I know probably

1719
01:17:06,110 --> 01:17:02,969
just like you every time I tell my

1720
01:17:07,850 --> 01:17:06,120
shadow person story I can see it and I'm

1721
01:17:09,350 --> 01:17:07,860
right there and because it happened

1722
01:17:12,220 --> 01:17:09,360
because it happened I mean you know

1723
01:17:15,530 --> 01:17:12,230
people can him and haw they want about

1724
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:15,540
you know making [\h__\h] up but it happened

1725
01:17:22,939 --> 01:17:20,640
so that was really so cool to see I

1726
01:17:24,919 --> 01:17:22,949
think is is people going from the

1727
01:17:27,340 --> 01:17:24,929
stressful situation of and not that we

1728
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:27,350
have a big crew it's a very small crew

1729
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:29,489
but you know there are sometimes some

1730
01:17:33,740 --> 01:17:32,130
light setups and maybe even I'm holding

1731
01:17:35,899 --> 01:17:33,750
a light there's been some behind the

1732
01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:35,909
scenes of you know various people in

1733
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:38,100
various places and just making making

1734
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:42,570
[\h__\h] work for a shot and it's it's not a

1735
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:45,360
comfortable situation but once they get

1736
01:17:49,939 --> 01:17:48,510
going that's that yeah I think that was

1737
01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:49,949
one of the coolest things to see is

1738
01:17:56,149 --> 01:17:52,860
people you're going yeah that definitely

1739
01:17:59,419 --> 01:17:56,159
happened to them yeah yeah and then you

1740
01:18:03,169 --> 01:17:59,429
make friends like it's so cool oh it's

1741
01:18:06,890 --> 01:18:03,179
awesome I mean like lifelong stuff yeah

1742
01:18:09,740 --> 01:18:06,900
yeah yeah with these topics like there's

1743
01:18:11,780 --> 01:18:09,750
an intimacy involved with like you know

1744
01:18:14,990 --> 01:18:11,790
confiding in someone with these stories

1745
01:18:17,180 --> 01:18:15,000
so I I do often feel that some of my

1746
01:18:19,610 --> 01:18:17,190
closest friends that I've ever made were

1747
01:18:21,919 --> 01:18:19,620
within the UFO community or the

1748
01:18:24,770 --> 01:18:21,929
paranormal community at large because

1749
01:18:25,580 --> 01:18:24,780
you are sharing things that are so out

1750
01:18:31,370 --> 01:18:25,590
of the ordinary

1751
01:18:33,290 --> 01:18:31,380
and so like beyond the frame that it's

1752
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:33,300
not like you could just tell anyone

1753
01:18:37,850 --> 01:18:35,250
these things you know so I gotta ask you

1754
01:18:41,330 --> 01:18:37,860
shed when and where will we be able to

1755
01:18:43,430 --> 01:18:41,340
see on the trail of UFOs yes Oh on the

1756
01:18:45,399 --> 01:18:43,440
trail UFOs will come out probably

1757
01:18:51,169 --> 01:18:45,409
sometime

1758
01:18:53,660 --> 01:18:51,179
possibly April May of this year 2020 but

1759
01:18:55,939 --> 01:18:53,670
keep your eye out on social media for

1760
01:18:58,729 --> 01:18:55,949
the exact release date I know that we

1761
01:19:00,270 --> 01:18:58,739
are doing a Kickstarter event a live

1762
01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:00,280
event Facebook

1763
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:04,000
On February 6 so keep your eye out for

1764
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:07,810
that and that way you guys can pledge on

1765
01:19:12,930 --> 01:19:09,810
various levels just like you do on

1766
01:19:16,050 --> 01:19:12,940
Ryan's patreon for you know added

1767
01:19:18,740 --> 01:19:16,060
bonuses t-shirts stickers original

1768
01:19:21,930 --> 01:19:18,750
artworks by some of the the people that

1769
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:21,940
Seth got commissioned for the project

1770
01:19:30,180 --> 01:19:25,770
yeah Seth is like packages for

1771
01:19:32,580 --> 01:19:30,190
supporters are so awesome so definitely

1772
01:19:35,010 --> 01:19:32,590
I definitely see ya Go Go fund this

1773
01:19:37,530 --> 01:19:35,020
guy's work he has built this company

1774
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:37,540
from the ground up and he you go on

1775
01:19:43,650 --> 01:19:40,110
Amazon Prime and you know three out of

1776
01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:43,660
three out of the 10 like top sellers are

1777
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:45,910
always one of his movies on Amazon Prime

1778
01:19:51,870 --> 01:19:49,210
so check them all out be sure to check

1779
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:51,880
out on the trail of UFOs but bringing it

1780
01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:53,170
back to beyond the fresh and there's

1781
01:19:57,210 --> 01:19:54,880
some other really exciting news about

1782
01:19:58,920 --> 01:19:57,220
this could you maybe tell us a little

1783
01:20:01,680 --> 01:19:58,930
about what you've done with beyond the

1784
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:01,690
fray and what might be coming next with

1785
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:06,610
it absolutely so besides getting beyond

1786
01:20:12,270 --> 01:20:08,560
the fray Bigfoot out we have also

1787
01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:12,280
created beyond the fray publishing so

1788
01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:14,560
what Jeff and I have done is create a

1789
01:20:19,950 --> 01:20:17,710
publishing house but this house will

1790
01:20:23,660 --> 01:20:19,960
live pretty much under the umbrella that

1791
01:20:28,700 --> 01:20:23,670
into the fray lives so that is

1792
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:28,710
paranormal UFOs true crime cryptid stuff

1793
01:20:35,850 --> 01:20:32,410
but the caveat though unlike our books

1794
01:20:38,190 --> 01:20:35,860
for beyond the fray specifically yours

1795
01:20:41,090 --> 01:20:38,200
that you send in to beyond the freight

1796
01:20:44,940 --> 01:20:41,100
publishing can be fiction or nonfiction

1797
01:20:46,410 --> 01:20:44,950
so you can if you if you would like if

1798
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:46,420
you have something done that you want to

1799
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:48,970
send us its info at beyond the fray

1800
01:20:55,530 --> 01:20:52,930
publishing calm Jeff is just he's

1801
01:20:58,830 --> 01:20:55,540
amazing at doing this stuff he knows

1802
01:21:00,750 --> 01:20:58,840
everything there is to know and and I'm

1803
01:21:05,460 --> 01:21:00,760
here to help it along I mean we have a

1804
01:21:07,980 --> 01:21:05,470
built in a promotion for your book on of

1805
01:21:09,870 --> 01:21:07,990
course on the show and we have all the

1806
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:09,880
means to get your book published and get

1807
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:12,690
it done and so

1808
01:21:17,959 --> 01:21:16,170
also besides beyond the fray publishing

1809
01:21:19,610 --> 01:21:17,969
which you can visit us at beyond the

1810
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:19,620
fray publishing comm for more

1811
01:21:26,860 --> 01:21:21,330
information on getting your book

1812
01:21:29,899 --> 01:21:26,870
published you can also now and this is a

1813
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:29,909
world premiere on summer in the skies

1814
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:33,510
but our next book beyond the fray Parrom

1815
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:36,210
algum ation is actually available right

1816
01:21:43,070 --> 01:21:40,080
now for pre-order on Amazon and we have

1817
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:43,080
a release date of April 28th of this

1818
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:47,489
year for that to come out so param alga

1819
01:22:01,820 --> 01:21:49,920
Nation is actually a word that I came up

1820
01:22:04,910 --> 01:22:01,830
with myself yeah so paramount omission

1821
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:04,920
is I came up with it for one of my

1822
01:22:12,290 --> 01:22:08,370
episodes because I want I pride myself

1823
01:22:14,570 --> 01:22:12,300
on coming up with halfway decent episode

1824
01:22:16,610 --> 01:22:14,580
titles you know it's difficult to come

1825
01:22:18,860 --> 01:22:16,620
up with that if it's not a parent and

1826
01:22:22,370 --> 01:22:18,870
that and the images we've talked about

1827
01:22:24,919 --> 01:22:22,380
that but this episode I'm like I have no

1828
01:22:26,959 --> 01:22:24,929
clue what the title this damn thing

1829
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:26,969
because it was all over the place crazy

1830
01:22:33,500 --> 01:22:30,210
stories scary stories and I came up with

1831
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:33,510
the word terror amalgamation Parham

1832
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:36,239
elevation it's it's you know if you

1833
01:22:39,410 --> 01:22:37,650
really think about it's not too

1834
01:22:41,629 --> 01:22:39,420
difficult but paranormal and

1835
01:22:43,370 --> 01:22:41,639
amalgamation and amalgamation just means

1836
01:22:46,850 --> 01:22:43,380
a whole smattering of different things

1837
01:22:51,169 --> 01:22:46,860
all smashed together so this book is

1838
01:22:54,500 --> 01:22:51,179
it's some of my very favorite amazing

1839
01:22:57,020 --> 01:22:54,510
creepy scary life changing stories from

1840
01:22:59,419 --> 01:22:57,030
into the fray and again not

1841
01:23:02,300 --> 01:22:59,429
fictionalized in any way we take what

1842
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:02,310
the witness says and we just we put it

1843
01:23:10,850 --> 01:23:05,610
in a very lovely little package to make

1844
01:23:13,070 --> 01:23:10,860
it highly readable and so that's what

1845
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:13,080
beyond the fray pare amalgamation is

1846
01:23:18,229 --> 01:23:14,730
it's some of my favorite it's all

1847
01:23:20,990 --> 01:23:18,239
smashed into this lovely book and we are

1848
01:23:22,820 --> 01:23:21,000
working on that right now and so you

1849
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:22,830
guys can go on Amazon right now get it

1850
01:23:29,149 --> 01:23:26,639
pre-ordered it'll be out in of April and

1851
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:29,159
I mean the good thing about the books

1852
01:23:34,370 --> 01:23:31,770
are is it doesn't always have to be

1853
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:34,380
within the parameters of into the fray

1854
01:23:38,359 --> 01:23:36,690
so if anyone's out there like well I

1855
01:23:40,010 --> 01:23:38,369
don't want to come on you know your show

1856
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:40,020
but I'd love to be in your book and I'm

1857
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:42,690
sure you would feel like this to Ryan

1858
01:23:50,090 --> 01:23:46,530
you know you know for future editions

1859
01:23:51,950 --> 01:23:50,100
but if anybody wants to you know reach

1860
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:51,960
out and go hey I don't want to be on the

1861
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:53,730
air but I'd love to be part of your book

1862
01:23:58,850 --> 01:23:56,250
great that's cool I mean part of beyond

1863
01:24:02,740 --> 01:23:58,860
the fray Bigfoot was built upon that so

1864
01:24:06,169 --> 01:24:02,750
there we go that is one of the biggest

1865
01:24:08,060 --> 01:24:06,179
releases in the last little bit here is

1866
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:08,070
the second book is already ready to come

1867
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:11,610
out wastes no time at beyond the fray

1868
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:14,610
publishing I love that I try not to get

1869
01:24:19,250 --> 01:24:17,250
that ball in the air yeah man when

1870
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,260
they're when it's hot you got a strike

1871
01:24:25,010 --> 01:24:20,880
hey you tell me when you get the UFOs

1872
01:24:27,169 --> 01:24:25,020
and I have got a mountain of stories for

1873
01:24:29,660 --> 01:24:27,179
you that's awesome yeah because you know

1874
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:29,670
that I and like I said before it's not a

1875
01:24:35,899 --> 01:24:32,250
place that I live heavily is UFOs but

1876
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:35,909
obviously I would love to do a UFO

1877
01:24:41,090 --> 01:24:39,449
version so if anyone who was on any

1878
01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:41,100
witness accounts episode of somewhere in

1879
01:24:45,609 --> 01:24:43,260
the skies please reach out to Shannon if

1880
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:45,619
you're willing to share it on my show in

1881
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:49,170
front of you know listening ears I'm

1882
01:24:52,850 --> 01:24:50,730
sure you're willing to do it in print

1883
01:24:54,260 --> 01:24:52,860
too so please reach out thanks right

1884
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:54,270
there that's my public service

1885
01:24:59,629 --> 01:24:56,730
announcement Shannon this has been

1886
01:25:01,879 --> 01:24:59,639
amazing as per usual we went off on many

1887
01:25:03,020 --> 01:25:01,889
tangents which I love that's what we do

1888
01:25:04,490 --> 01:25:03,030
best

1889
01:25:06,500 --> 01:25:04,500
some of that is going to end up in the

1890
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:06,510
patreon episode so for those of you who

1891
01:25:11,689 --> 01:25:08,730
aren't members please check it out at

1892
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:11,699
patreon.com slash summer skies you're

1893
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:13,770
gonna hear some exclusive stuff between

1894
01:25:19,129 --> 01:25:16,610
Shannon and I that I just don't think

1895
01:25:21,229 --> 01:25:19,139
I'm willing to share on the main feed

1896
01:25:26,060 --> 01:25:21,239
and that's that's how you do it guys

1897
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:26,070
that's what nor should you know this was

1898
01:25:30,620 --> 01:25:28,530
amazing Shannon I can't wait to dig

1899
01:25:32,660 --> 01:25:30,630
through the rest of the book two of the

1900
01:25:34,250 --> 01:25:32,670
stories literally really shook me to the

1901
01:25:37,220 --> 01:25:34,260
core so I can't even imagine where the

1902
01:25:39,260 --> 01:25:37,230
book is going next but you don't want me

1903
01:25:40,399 --> 01:25:39,270
to come out there with you and Jane and

1904
01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,409
take you guys up

1905
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:42,719
about 50 miles upstate New York City and

1906
01:25:47,029 --> 01:25:44,489
see what happens no

1907
01:25:53,359 --> 01:25:47,039
it's hard enough to get us out of course

1908
01:25:56,509 --> 01:25:53,369
so go camping and turn into little human

1909
01:25:59,120 --> 01:25:56,519
burritos right I was in Portland two

1910
01:26:01,489 --> 01:25:59,130
weeks ago and trust me I was looking

1911
01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:01,499
everywhere for a Bigfoot well you are

1912
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:03,360
important Portland

1913
01:26:08,989 --> 01:26:06,570
yeah visiting some friends and doing a

1914
01:26:11,179 --> 01:26:08,999
little um little cryptid hunting myself

1915
01:26:14,659 --> 01:26:11,189
but that's a story for another time but

1916
01:26:16,759 --> 01:26:14,669
yeah someday someday I will see a

1917
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:16,769
Bigfoot that is my dream in my hope now

1918
01:26:22,429 --> 01:26:20,010
I've done UFOs I've seen a ghost or I

1919
01:26:25,909 --> 01:26:22,439
should say felt a ghost story for

1920
01:26:28,189 --> 01:26:25,919
another time as well I think I got a

1921
01:26:29,060 --> 01:26:28,199
Markoff cryptid next so we'll see what

1922
01:26:31,939 --> 01:26:29,070
happens with that

1923
01:26:34,299 --> 01:26:31,949
just just bring your adult diapers and

1924
01:26:39,020 --> 01:26:34,309
apparently your crying baby recordings

1925
01:26:41,330 --> 01:26:39,030
that that will aid you for sure I know

1926
01:26:45,579 --> 01:26:41,340
firsthand but I know you did

1927
01:26:45,589 --> 01:26:53,510
Thank You Ryan

1928
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:08,640
[Music]

1929
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:29,090
[Applause]

1930
01:27:33,130 --> 01:27:31,370
somewhere in the skies is produced by

1931
01:27:35,050 --> 01:27:33,140
Third Kind productions in association

1932
01:27:36,850 --> 01:27:35,060
with the entertainment one podcast